Vapers and for that matter all tobacco users in this day and age are typically really poorly thought-out scum.
this post was submitted on 08 May 2024
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Vape research is almost always terrible quality. Practically every study uses temperatures completely intolerable and unrealistic, they don't reflect ordinary use. That's not to say vaping is healthier than not vaping, but it obvious to see it's far safer than smoking
Yeah, this study was basically just guessing how various chemicals break down under heat. The fact that they reference the EVALI bullshit tells me the study can be safely ignored.
Well imagine my shock.
Wait. Smoking is bad? You think someone would have said something by now.
Vaping isn't smoking.
Sucking foreign materials into your lungs is bad? You think someone would have said something by now.
Jesus fuck! I see why people fucking hate Lemmy. Fucking nerds
I'm always wary of studies about products, but at least in this case the funding is governmental instead of private
D.W. acknowledges the Synthesis and Solid State Pharmaceutical Centre (SSPC) and Science foundation Ireland for funding support, Grant Number 12/RC/2275_P2
This really isn't a product study. They're just guessing how chemicals will break down under heat.
Next they are going to say that smoking is bad.
I suppose from a harm reduction standpoint the big question: is has vaping dropped chronic disease that has been traditionally linked to tobacco products or is it equally or more dangerous than traditional tobacco products? If it's reducing mortality and disease, then that's a good thing overall even it still poses some risk to long term health. Obviously you don't want to use traditional tobacco products or vape products if you want a healthy cardiovascular system.
It's absolutely not as dangerous as smoking.
Also, nicotine alone has heart positive effects.
Far safer, probably even with garbage quality import vapes. You can see when someone at your gym swaps from smoking to vaping, their performance skyrockets. Clear as day their lungs are working better. Shouldn't be a hige surprise given there is no tar when vaping
Far safer, agreed. After 20-years of smoking, I quit coughing within 3-weeks.
OTOH, I just quit vaping (10-years) and started the nicotine pouches. Game. Changed. I had no idea how bad vaping was for me. (That was bad for me personally. YMMV depending on several factors. I basically vaped like it was air.)
I assume you mean patches, not pouches haha
How long did it take to see improvement after you swapped to patches?
pouches. they're like snus, but no tobacco, only nicotine
That’s better for your lungs, but far, FAR worse for mouth teeth and gums
Careful, those things cause awful gum recession and potential tooth loss if you use them regularly
Oh yeah, so few people use them here I assumed you typoed haha