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Interesting problem here. So I self host jellyfin, happy to share my (owned) movies with my family. Well, my mother has asked me to digitize her collection too and have me host it. Originally, fine, you give your movies to me, I host them, same thing.

However, what I didn't bet on was the amount of garbage, terrible movies she would give me. There's a few that are fine, but the vast majority are, well I'll just put it bluntly, christian propaganda. I don't think any of them are as terrible as some of the worst case, but think "My life was horrible until I found god now look and see how fulfilled I am" type propaganda - and they make for horrible plots. Left Behind with Kirk Cameron is a good example. Even removing the blatent boring christian plots - it's just a horribly made movie. Cheap, not thought out well, and honestly I read the book decades ago, it's a horrible adaptation too.

Not that I keep only top tier movies in my libraries, but these are, well they just bring a pit to my stomach.

What would you do in my situation? (And I'm going to go ahead and say the pure atheist comments aren't needed, yes of course I could burn them, or dance around them, but I'm not looking to just burn the bridge between my mother and myself over a lifetime of her indoctrination and bad taste in movies). I'm more looking for generic, how do you handle your users asking you to put content you don't find appealing on your server?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I don't know if you can do this with Jellyfin but this is what I could do with Plex:

  • create an account for her
  • create a new dir for her movies
  • create a new movie library called "Mom's special" which watches this dir
  • share the new library with her account
  • share the rest of the libraries with her account
  • drop the garbage in the special dir

In the end no one else sees Mom's special, while your mom sees everything and Mom's special.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Use your words. Tell her you don't want to and why.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Build her a server, install it at her house, set up some sort of automated DVD ripping mechanism so that she can digitize her own collection, wait for the inevitable tech support call, then go spend a Sunday afternoon fixing her server and digitizing her collection for her while she makes you dinner. You get to call it "quality time", and you get fed while keeping her happy and her collection as far away from yours as possible. Win/win, everyone is happy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

I'd say a good middle ground could be making that stuff only visible from your mom's user (or even setting up a completely separate server)?

It depends on what YOU want to do, really... personally, I would be ok hosting religious nonsense if asked, as long as it's not generally available in kids' accounts and stuff (also, porn), but I would come clean and outright refuse if it was neonazi,racist and/or conspiracy stuff. It depends on where you decide to draw the line.

BTW: there's also the passive/aggressive, cowardly option of sayng "I'll rip them when I have time" and then sequester all the DVDs and only ever find the time to rip the ones you don't mind

[–] [email protected] 143 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If its just for her, I don't really care what content I host for family unless it straight up nazi/gay hate shit. New age "found christian" movies are massive yuck, but innocuous otherwise. She's gonna consume them regardless of whether you host them or not.

Move it to its own library, make sure to rip in low quality (480p low bitrate) so you're not spending too much disk space in her, and let it be. It's not worth driving a rift in the family over.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 months ago

Good level headed reply, I like this. Others have suggested that as well, I'll move the crud over to her own library, then it doesn't pollute my main library and I can hide it from the others.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I loooove bad movies. Not religious-bad, more mystery science theater bad.

I rip everything and plunk it into it's own library just for me.

If you have the space and time, go ahead and limit access to her. She's already seen them or will anyway. You hosting a file for one individual isn't going to tip the grand scale of anything.

If you have a moral issue against it, don't host the content. You've already made up your mind, it's just taking you a while to realize it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Blunt answer, but an honest one, appreciate it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Host it exclusively to her user or don't host it at all. If you're not going to host it, you know your mother better than any of us, so you'll know which approach would work better.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'd just host them in a library only visible to mom and members that would want to view it.

Also consider the unintentionally comedic value of such films, they're sometimes fun to watch just because of how bad they are.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Watch them. Start a podcast.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, my mother has asked me to digitize her collection too and have me host it. Originally, fine, you give your movies to me, I host them, same thing.

Did your mom buy your computer and hard drives? I doubt it. You spent your own money, right? So she's giving you a whole bunch of stuff which is consuming your space. Quote out the cost of buying components for a separate server for her with her own drives. When she buys the parts, build her her own server and put her stuff on it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

It's the person's mother, and they already accepted the request. I feel like giving her a price quote is a huge jackass move.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Well, just don't host them, what she gonna do? Tell the police ?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Do one of the following:

  1. Tell your mother you're not comfortable hosting that type of content as a non-believer.
  2. Lie and hand back the propaganda movies and say you couldn't rip them to some unknown rip protecting they use and there's not enough resources online to figure it out.
  3. Host the content and let your mother liver her life and don't say anything.

I'd personally use option 1, but you do you.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I don't have this problem exactly, but what I would recommend is putting it in a specific separate library. You could even set it up so only your mother's account can access it, and you never have to see it, or you could have it visible but never go to it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

This is a good idea, and an approach I'm going to think about and probably take. Then it's away from everything else, and not polluting my actual good movies.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Would probably do this, but also rip it in very poor quality to be sure it does not take too much space :D

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Malicious compliances in action. Not that you can't do, but this can tense up the relationship.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ive not shared mine to the point anyone can arbitrarily get media. They have to ask. And I can always say “Oh its not available on my sources” or whatever

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

hindsight is 20/20 there, yeah, wish I hadn't done this. To others, this is the best approach, don't accept it in the first place

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, you don't have to watch it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't like hosting things I disagree with for others to view and consume

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago
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