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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (13 children)

Meanwhile I'm struggling to find 4MB SD cards, so I can easily overwrite it with random data to securely wipe it between uses.

How the heck do people with 4TB SD cards do data hygiene wipes of their medium before crossing international borders? That would take days..

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How the heck do people with 4TB SD cards do data hygiene wipes of their medium before crossing international borders?

They don't

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what your particular situation is but if you're just using it on computers you could use LUKS or BitLocker or FileVault. Then if you want to wipe it, you only need to destroy the key and the data is rendered effectively gone.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If only I could get this much storage on my Mac.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

and i still cant use it in most phones cause there is no freaking port!

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (11 children)

I can't fathom a good reason for 4TB SD cards.

Most cameras have CF Express which is probably 5-8 times faster.

Even UHS-III is 600MB/s while CF Express Type B is hitting 4GB/s.

Even so, why would you risk 4TB of data on removable storage.

CF Express is also running PCI-E. This article isn't talking about SD Express.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My laptop has an SD card slot. So if this were reliable I could add a significant permanent storage capacity to my laptop.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Valid point, but I think most built in SD card slots are on a laptop can read 100MB/s. Hopefully yours is perhaps USB 3.0 speeds.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Aren't SD cards slow and prone to failures?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The ones used for 4K recordings are not slow 100+MBps, I won't say prone to failure as such, flash storage can only handle a finite number of writes but we can mitigate that by using wear leveling.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

That's pretty slow for terabyte sized storage. And slow compared to the alternatives, too (600 MB/s or Gabs/s).

Spinning hard disks are faster than this, too. Have been for decade(s).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I wish SD Cards also had some specifications for random access speed.

I used to have a UHS-I SanDisk card which felt much faster than my current UHS-III Samsung card. It's really evident when searching through the storage, waiting for photo thumbnails to cache, etc..

I am not sure whether to go for a UHS-I SanDisk or UHS-III Samsung next. That SanDisk might not handle higher bitrate 4K.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Hehe, I think I haven't caught up with the improvements, flash with 1GB/s transfer speed is ludicrously fast!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

All SSD and NVMe are also "just flash", and reach 5GB/s and more, often limited by the available interface bandwidth until very recently.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Other formats can exceed that by caching & writing to multiple chips at once i guess.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Who need that much storage on their phone? Honestly asking.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Me. I am basically trying to squeeze the desktop ^(PC)^ out of my phone, so there's a lot of "unnecessary" stuff.

For example, I am currently deciding whether to keep the 110GB of DVD ISO files which I can stream from my phone using VLC (on client side) which are served by nginx server from my phone (this way I still get all menus, just like with a physical DVD) or delete it and replace it with equally sized 110GB EN Wikipedia maxi .zim package, install kiwix-tools on Termux and set up nginx on Termux to serve as revese proxy to kiwix-serve so I could also host a mirror of the whole English Wikipedia, including (downscaled) images on my phone. I guess that sounds cooler than DVDs.
Or I should get a 512GB SD card and keep both.
I can't afford 1TB one.

But yeah, that's just one example. My 256GB SD card is about to pop while my video and music collection (The latter of which which is also served using Navidrome server in Termux 🙂. For videos I just use nginx with material fancyindex theme.) keeps growing.
I already have to keep some stuff on phone's internal storage.

Termux is godsent. Otherwise I'd absolutely have to get a PinePhone as I couldn't live with something as locked down as Android or even iOS without a nice terminal emulator.
Alternatively, I could benefit from pocket-sized passively cooled laptop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Thanks. That sounds pretty cool.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I won't mind that much storage, the 256GB I have are nearly full.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'm using a 128GB phone and it's never full. But I export photos And videos off it once every 6 months. If I didn't I'd need 1TB phone.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Same. I should have gotten a 512GB Micro SD. "I could never use that much storage." Yeah, I could.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What do you use all that storage for?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Apps, photos, audio books, and the OS.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Nope just plain old Android, haven't gotten around to using something better

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Storage needs kind of grow to the size of their container. Like a goldfish.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Really depends on the person. I have never managed to fill up a 128 gigabyte phone, but that is because I am blind, so I am not taking pictures in 4K videos. The biggest thing on my phone is my music collection, which only takes about 5 gigs or so. This phone that I have now is a 64 gigabyte phone and while it's mostly full, it's still not there yet. According to the Android settings, I still have about 23 gigabytes left on this 64 gig phone. It says I have used about 64% and if this were a 128 gig phone, that would be about 32% or so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Phones don't have (full size) SD card slots, this is for cameras and such.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (4 children)

This isn't about phones. It's mainly about cameras recording 4k/8k video, and devices such as the steamdeck storing lots of games.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Unfortunately, the card mentioned in the article is far too slow to record high resolution, high bit-rate video from even older "pro" cameras.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I've filled 256GB pretty easily by recording on an action camera all day, maybe for a couple of days. 4TB would be very convenient for a holiday.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

That make sense. Thanks.

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