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Here's a non-paywalled link to an article published in the Washington Post a few days ago. It's great to see this kind of thing getting some mainstream attention. Young children have not made an informed decision about whether they want their photos posted online.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 months ago (10 children)

As the internet gets scarier

How the fuck is the internet getting scarier? This isn't the random gore and porn filled, go to a forum and immediately get targeted by a sex-predator, internet that I grew up with. The internet is a corporate walled garden of mega services that feed disinformation and bullshit to people, but your odds of getting genuinely victimized as a child are so much lower than they used to be.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

It's not, it's just that with enough mainstream media coverage about scary internet stories normies are slowly waking up to what the internet is and how you should conduct yourself on it. Of course any terminally online person could have told you that 20 years ago but those are not most people. Hell even if you do know better good luck convincing your family, I know I tried for years with negligible results other than one of them now using a password manager.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (5 children)

On the flip side, search for "mom run" or "parent run" on Instagram to see the kids whose parents have decided to parade in front of thousands of people online. Usually moms posting their little girls in leotards and swimsuits for their mostly mostly adult male followers... 🤢🤮

But don't worry, Meta isn't complicit, if you search "child model" they give you a scary child abuse warning message.

Someone else on Lemmy pointed this out a while back, and after seeing it for myself that firmly solidified my decision to stay the fuck away from anything Meta does.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Run as in "mom runs this account".

"Mom managed" also gets results.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I have not posted a single photo of my kids on any platform for this reason. My wife on the other hand thinks I'm overly paranoid, so thanks to her, Zuck has a ton of photos of them...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Here's a real screenshot from Instagram.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is that a porn genAI ad next to photos of underage kids? 💀

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

A video to share with your wife

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Is the internet scarier?

Or is it just millennials and "internet natives" having kids and more of them knowing better what the internet actually is.

I tell people to imagine a public place with everyone in it, the majority wearing masks or costumes. With constantly recording surveillance. Do you take off your mask.

Sure the mask is not perfect protection, and there are areas off to the side where people seem to not be wearing masks. But go ahead and choose a way to keep your kids safe.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Here in Belgium it's been pretty much the norm, both in friends groups or in institutions like schools that ask more formally, that one does not post photos online without the consent of all participants, including that of kids and their guardians. This is particularly the case for sharing publicly e.g Facebook post but also WhatsApp group.

It's a mess but habits are changing at scale.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Storing offline is great and all, but I hope everyone is storing on multiple disks at multiple locations....

Yer didn't think so, I'm sure photos are being lost.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Everyone loses data once before they understand how important backups are.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

If only that happening once was enough to learn from our mistakes.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

No backup? No pity!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I share my photos with friends and family using a normal webhost.

I used to upload my artsy photos to DeviantArt, but a year ago I had enough with how slow it had become, so I set up my own small lightweight website using a simple HTML/CSS menu and galleries generated by digiKam that also uses very light jacascript for navigation.

It is blazingly fast and private enough for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Until its used to train AI

Not to mention it is probably getting archived by the internet archive (no hate for the internet archive I think its a great idea)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I believe google does respect robots.txt, as for other services I don't know.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Still on iCloud, Google Drive and OneDrive. No way these people know how to store photos offline on their phone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I think it would be cool if there was more products that allowed this

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

At our place we only share photos of the kids with grandparents/aunts/uncles via group chat. They’re the only group that “necessarily” needs to see the kids.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Let me guess, the group chat is WhatsApp or iMessage, so Facebook or Apple gets to see them too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not even close—it’s Skype! We aren’t able to teach a 98yo great grandma to use something else from overseas, so Microsoft gets the cake.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Well its better that posting it publicly

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Whatsapp is E2E encrypted isn't it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

"Encrypted"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Isn't the option to backup whatsapp data to Gdrive encrypted opt-in?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But the app is closed source, so you can't know that Facebook isn't intercepting it at either end.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Exactly, both end points are blackboxes compromised by Facebook.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

And their " legitimate partners"

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