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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

One thing I’ve learned on reddit is that you never tell people on platforms like that or even this one that you’re a landlord. You could be the best landlord, never raise a reasonable rent, keep a well and promptly maintained property, and LanDlOrDs aRe The ScUm of ThE Earth!!1! is all you hear.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (16 children)

The very idea of being a landlord is pretty evil though? Like in a housing shortage you're hoarding property and profiting off it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think everyone in your replies is conflating being a full time landlord and a part time landlord. One of them is definitely more evil than the other.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk my previous landlord was part time and was still hell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My previous landlord was amazing. Dealt with every issue that arose in a timely fashion, never raised my rent (which was already very fair based on the location), and even installed central AC after my first kid was born since the house was old and could get pretty hot in the summers.

And she wasn’t the only good landlord I’ve had.

Sorry your experience has been bad with renting, and I agree that most landlords are terrible (I’ve had plenty of those as well), but just because you haven’t ever had a good landlord doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not everyone is able or willing to own their property, what would they do if landlords didn't exist?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Privatizing the right to have shelter is pretty scummy to be a thing to exist.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

Your assuming everyone wants to own property over renting.

House and property ownership has a lot of responsibility and expenses involved. Your water heater breaks well there is $1000+ your roof needs replacing there is 30K. All of that goes away when you rent as it isn't your responsibility.

If you own property it can be harder and more risky to relocate. I know a few people that bought in 2007 and then were stuck as they couldn't afford to move because they were upsidedown on their house.

Not saying renting is all sunshine and roses. I personally would rather own then rent but home ownership isn't for everyone.

But I do think it is a major problem when you have a few companies buying up all property so no one else can afford it. But I don't think being a Landlord is inherently evil.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So while I generally agree with your sentiment, there are some obvious ways that sometime could be an ethical landlord.

What if you have a house that's too big, so you convert a floor into an apartment? You're adding to the number of housing units available. Should you be forced to sell a portion of your house/building to whoever wants to live there? Or should you be able to rent it out to someone at a reasonable rate? Do we want rules that discourage people from potentially adding units to the market?

I feel like the "all landlords are evil" narrative is way too simplistic, and that simplistic view turns off people who would otherwise support reasonable limits on landlords and housing ownership. Like, it's obvious that we need limits and taxes on people who own multiple properties, and it's obvious that there are companies that exploit renters and drive up prices, but it's all more complicated than just "landlords evil lol".

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I rent my property because it's the only way I could've bought it at my age and I use that money to pay for the mortgage of it while I live somewhere I don't want to (under parent's wing in a crappy city) but angry people rarely if ever consider all scenarios

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone else is litteraly paying your mortgage for you because you cannot afford it otherwise. How out of touch do you have to be to say that with a straight face?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for the insult and making my point, I can afford it but in my country you have to make a downpayment of 20% of the value and that ate into my savings, I want to recover some of my savings before moving to another city and eating into those savings more, plus I have to wait a year for my wife's job, is it wrong to rent it for that year before I move?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

How am I making your point? You litteraly said that you could not afford the place, so you rented it out instead.

Someone is paying your mortgage for you because you cannot afford it, and then you will kick that person out when you want to. That person will then have to move again in a market that gets worse by the month.

I'd say that is pretty bad all around.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No it's absolutely not. Your comment displays a complete ignorance of the business.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wrong.

I'd make a point, but you didn't bother. Typical landlord unwilling to put in the work.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Another person who doesn't know what they're talking about who is anti-business.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not a business, it's a scam to take advantage of people

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Not a scam. Not taking advantage of people. You're just wrong on all accounts.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Where would people live then? Those don't want to buy. Under the bridge?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am my hamsters land lord. Ask me anything

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

my cat and I started as roommates but now I'm pretty sure he's my boyfriend.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Happy Fake Labor Day to the Americans, because their government wants to hide real labor day from their citizens so they don't have to educate them about the Haymarket Affair.

Labor Day being in September is absolutely about erasing labor history. If more people knew labor history, more people would understand why All Cops Are Bastards.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You are correct, the American website Wikipedia definitely does not have an article on Haymarket

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The average American has a seventh grade reading level (with 54% of the population with less than a sixth grade reading level), and you expect them to be educated enough to 1. know what it is and 2. look for a Wikipedia article on it?

Jesus, half this fucking country doesn't even live in reality anymore. Somehow, they're supposed to just know that it's on Wikipedia.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you want like some mandatory Ludovico Technique for this piece of information, or what? There's literally a library of Congress article. It has been part of AP US history for as long as I can remember. I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make. That there are tons of wilfully ignorant people in the US (true)? Or that this piece of history has been censored (objectively false)?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Erasure is different than censorship, and I think you're intelligent enough to know that. I took that AP history class, and it was super biased against the workers, so that's kind of a joke to reference.

Also, if we're talking about a country with a seventh grade average reading level, we're mostly talking about people who have never taken an AP fucking US history class.

Choosing the September date is part and parcel to why more people don't know about it, because it's not generally part of the public consciousness or conversation. That's called erasure, not censorship.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If it was an AP class, that shits not getting to the ears of who really needs it most.

I would argue that it's completely erased in most States

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mean we're talking about a country that is literally in the process of redefining the history of slavery and running with "but the slaves learned valuable skills!" Yeah, I'm trying to meet these people at their level, but it's clear that in huge swaths of the country, it isn't talked about, period.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was reasonable at the time to separate celebration of labor from Haymarket massacre, where an anarchist through a bomb into otherwise peaceful labor rally killing both the police and the civilian with many workers being injured and triggering the riot. The labor leaders in US then decided to make labor day to be not associated with these bloody events, which have little relationship with the labor movement itself. Not sure why you refer here to ACAB, the policemen were victims here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At the McCormick reaper plant, a long-simmering strike erupted in violence on May 3, and police fired at strikers, killing at least two. Anarchists called a protest meeting at the West Randolph Street Haymarket, advertising it in inflammatory leaflets, one of which called for “Revenge!”

The crowd gathered on the evening of May 4 on Des Plaines Street, just north of Randolph, was peaceful, and Mayor Carter H. Harrison, who attended, instructed police not to disturb the meeting. But when one speaker urged the dwindling crowd to “throttle” the law, 176 officers under Inspector John Bonfield marched to the meeting and ordered it to disperse.

Then someone hurled a bomb at the police, killing one officer instantly. Police drew guns, firing wildly. Sixty officers were injured, and eight died; an undetermined number of the crowd were killed or wounded.

But sure, the cops who were told not to show up, and then showed up when they were angry that people were pissed that they murdered workers, they deservedly got a bomb in their faces. Cops are always a bunch of authoritarian pieces of shit who can't stand being criticized for being the violent fucking thugs they are.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cops are always a bunch of authoritarian pieces of shit who can’t stand being criticized for being the violent fucking thugs they are.

Such blanket statements about all the cops is intellectual dishonesty at best. While there are shitty people working in all professions, and having some police officers shitty means very bad things can happen, the majority of the force is not that, as I am sure you aware. Yes, structural changes are needed, but this is not the same as calling all of them as bunch of authoritarian pieces of shit. There is crime in this country, and police does have its function and is needed by society.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look, I kind of agree with your sentiment, but the historical event in question did involve what the commenter you're replying to insists happened. I that instance, all the cops involved were assholes. In that era, law enforcement was tied to power by necessity, since only the powerful (read: rich) could start townships and such and afford to pay for law enforcers.

But now? Things are a little complex. This is on purpose, as the powerful class has continually meddled in police affairs through lobbying and unions (ironically the police union is hilariously well funded due to rich interests wanting am army to keep the poors in line), and we're (in the US) trending back towards police basically being an official branch of Pinkertons.

Still, I've met good cops. Genuinely good people. Last year, I had a flat (entirely my fault. In CA) tire and a passing motorcycle cop stopped to help. He not only helped me replace it with a spare, he offered to call and pay for a tow truck for me. Truly a kind man, and believed in his social position perhaps more than the average.

But yeah, that's not how it is in most places. Even in CA you have sheriff gangs, prison guard gangs, corruption, you name it. Like I said, the US as a whole is generally trending backwards as of late.

Anyways we need nuance. But we're increasingly approaching a world where nuance is shunned or laughed at as missing the point, or being needlessly picky. Not only that, people seem even more desperate to feed into tribal groupings. Even on lemmy, you're either pro US or pro China/Russia. It's like people think they need to pick a side.

Sorry, just needed to rant I guess. I just hope we manage to keep the planet alive while we figure our bullshit out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cheers mate, thanks for the nuanced take.

I don't think most folks like me reject the idea that good cops could exist, it's more that we're so aware of how many bad cops exist (at least in the US), it's one of those situations where good cops are run off the force (or worse, targeted and murdered before they can testify) or put up with so much bad behavior themselves that over time, they've become a bad cop, because they're not stopping other bad cops. Even if they're nice to citizens, if they're covering for crimes of their fellow cops, they're a bad cop. The fact that more cops aren't standing up against things like qualified immunity when it's painfully being abused or civil forfeiture when it's abused shows exactly how little they care for the public and how much they care for their right to abuse the public without recourse.

Unfortunately, that leaves most cops in the USA falling under the umbrella of ACAB.

Oh, and the whole 40% of cops self-reported as beating their spouses. On top of the whole "Killology" mess that trains them to be an occupying force in their own cities. It's really hard to make excuses for them at this point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just admit you were wrong. Just say "Actually, you're right, the cops were committing violence against striking workers first." It's not that hard.

No need to split hairs or change the subject.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Not on May 4. And I did not change the subject - you did with the ACAB statement.

To the topic: The bomber was anarchist. Labor was not behind this attack and wanted to distant itself from it. Thus they selected the September.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there a version of this with proper English? It doesn’t help the plight of the labourer to speak so poorly

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