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  • KDE Plasma 6 will require users to double-click on files and folders to open them by default.
  • This change is controversial for those familiar with single-click behavior in KDE Plasma.
  • Click behavior in KDE Plasma 6 is configurable, allowing users to choose between single-click and double-click.

https://archive.ph/BseL3


This is one of the first things I always tweak in KDE, so I love this change, but I'm curious how others feel.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 9 months ago (16 children)

I’m actually kinda suspicious any Linux user would actually want a single click default.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Honestly I just love that Plasma closely resembles the Windows 10/11 UI. Not that I like Windows, but because I have to deal with Windows from time to time.

Switching between Gnome UI and Windows 10/11 UI requires an effort to me. Switching betweek Plasma and Windows - almost no difference.

Plasma is fucking great!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Shame that they gave in to the haters, single click is great. Far more intuitive too, as you'd immediately tell if you ever had to guide your parents around a computer constantly reminding them in which arbitrary situation you're meant to double click and in which to single click.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

They can change the default settings as long as they leave the option to change it available.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I think it's great. I think it's impossible to use dolphin with single click since it goes into folders or starts files when clicking on them once.

Anyone knows the historic reason for single click? Plasma was inspired by some older system?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I could definitely be remembering wrong, but if I remember correctly there was a TechOverTea video by Brodie Robertson featuring Nicco Loves Linux aka Niccolo Venerandi where this topic came up in which there was the mention of I think something to do with carpal tunnel, and a weird drag-to-select bug or something.
My memory is a little hazy here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Use the terminal mostly anyway, but navigating deeply nested folders when you have to double click is slightly annoying so I can see the appeal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don't see why they can't just have the folders behave differently.
Just make opening folders single click & executing/opening everything else double click.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think it was windows 98 that introduced "hovering on an item" = single click and single click = double click. Disabled by default of course

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Oh god, I'd forgotten the dark days of windows UI introduced with the active desktop update

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Kinda disappointed actually. It's in my top ten best features if KDE. Single click is so much faster and easier. No other OS has gotten this right.

As long as they dont take it away. But since most people now won't know it's there they are unlikely to find out just how great it is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's great except when there's no "white space" to easily do a drag select. Or I'm just an idiot and do it wrong.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I use ctrl-click to select

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

In Dolphin, there is a "+" icon in the top right corner on hover for selection.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My problem with it: It was not consistent when using KDE:

In Dolpin, it's a single click.....

When downloading something in Firefox and choosing the location, it's a double click.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

Firefox doesn't use the KDE file picker by default. You can set widget.use-xdg-desktop-portal.file-picker to 1 to use the desktop environment's native picker.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Firefox#KDE_integration

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (5 children)

When I first switched to KDE, this issue took up roughly 15 seconds of my time as I saw what was happening and went exploring for the setting to change the behavior. Apart from having to change the setting again from time to time, I have spent exactly zero seconds thinking about it and exactly zero seconds wondering which approach was the "best" since then. I wonder how honest it is for this site to refer to a "debate"; it's hard for me to imagine anyone giving a shit beyond setting their own system up the way they like it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

I used kubuntu for an year on an old ProBook and I just assumed that the trackpad buttons were broken and sent a double click.

I discovered this issue only today lol

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, this is the Internet

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Yes; my post is obliquely suggesting that people are ridiculous.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

I'm also always changing this first, so i agree with the change.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Um, I just switched from gnome to plasma about three or four months ago. I don't keep anything at all in my desktop I didn't realize that it was single click.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Is this a change I'm too "command line" to care about?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes... I remember when IE 4 came to Windows and introduced single clicking. What a terrible idea.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Don't worry, apps are so slow that we don't risk repeating the same problem of double-clicking causing the first click to open the app and the second click to do something in the app that you didn't want to do.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 9 months ago

Single click was always the first setting I changed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (5 children)

As someone who hasn't touched KDE in years, can someone fill me in: How did you previously select a folder without opening it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

If you have a list, click on the item to open, click next to it to select.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Drag a selection box around it, or use ctrl. Or right click.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Control + Left click

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

There's a symbol at the top left of the file or directory icon to select the item rather than open. It's stays there even if you have double click to open

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)
  1. click it
  2. as it instantly opens you realise you didn't change that setting yet and go change it
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