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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

I have so much "free credit monitoring" from data breaches, I could leave it to my grandkids and they'd be set for life.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have been informed my SSN, DOB, and payment information have been "compromised" at least 50 times in my life.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Everyone's data is now public knowledge

[–] [email protected] 80 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (15 children)

Why exactly did a telecom company need SSNs anyway?

Edited to add, this was a rhetorical question and more a comment on the awful series of systems in the USA that leads a SSN to be used by telecom companies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Most people get suckered into signing a contract and using a "postpaid" plan, where you get the service for a month and then pay for it. That requires a credit check and credit reporting, since you get the service before payment. You don't have to give out your SSN if you sign up for "prepaid" cell phone plans, which offer less discounts and benefits but are generally cheaper for the service they provide. The only catch is you pay for the month before you use it, but this makes canceling as easy as stopping payment.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To collaborate more effectively with the NSA and CIA.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

Credit checks.

Nowadays they offer financing for devices. But even in the past it was required. They would determine the maximum number of lines you had available, and if there were any deposits to open new lines of service. Even before phone financing, those phone contracts came with hundreds of dollars of phone discounts at time of purchase and had hundreds of dollars worth of early termination fees and they want to make sure their customers had a good chance of paying if they left.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I think it's related maybe to some anti terrorism law? In certain EU countries for example it's impossible to get an anonymous SIM due to some anti terrorism legislation. SSNs are the only legal identification I guess?

This is a random guess off the top of my head. IANAL or know anything specific on US law.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What's IANAL? Is it some new Apple product I don't know about yet?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

SSN isn't supposed to be used as a form of ID. Even says so on an SS card.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It's almost like the gov should replace the SSN system with something that addresses modern security concerns.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It baffles the mind the the USA doesn't have a plain old photo ID

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

There is, just on a state level which does nothing for a nation with 50 of the fuckers

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Social Security Numbers were never meant to be used for anything other than Social Security itself. Credit agencies use the SSN because they view it as an easy identifier and they didn't have to create anything themselves.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago

Like fingerprints

Oh wait...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

But then I can't google my number when I forget.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Will there be consequences??

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

SSNs are not secure and were never intended to be used that way. Just because companies misuse it for security to cut costs and apply credit ratings we never voted for doesn't mean we should necessarily punish someone for leaking that data that is already like 99% public data because of all the previous leaks. It would be better if everyone treated it as public data and not some secret identity key. They should be punished for poor security and fix their shit, but SSNs are not private, not intended to be used for identity, and not secure.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

and this is why i refused to give you my social back when i lived in your service area and had a land line installed.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Tried to delete my shit from their website, but they make it impossible to do so. I tried for about 20 minutes then eventually the site straight up refused to let me continue. I don't even have AT&T anymore, I had their cellular back in 2013 and left them then, but the fuckers kept my info in their system this whole fucking time. No accountability for big corporations when they fuck up big like this. If it were one of us peasants, we would have been in prison for life.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think the problem is there isn't any law protecting your data

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And that's a huge problem. Only form of protection I have is freezing my credit with the three credit reporting assholes. I know it's not much, but at least no one can apply for shit with my social.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Fight Club had it backwards. Instead of attacking the banks to wipe out people’s credit someone should release everyone’s SSN. The mass fraud will make credit useless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You first. Feel free to post it here.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

This is brilliant. The government could put out a searchable database.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Isn't 70 million like 1/4 anyway?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Let's evolve, let the chips fall where they may.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Is there any way we could do some sort of certificate based authentication? Instead of a social security number. I know people get really dodgy whenever you talk about ways to identify them but there has to be a better way than this.

Identity fraud can ruin your life permanently and at this point I'm pretty sure more people have been compromised than haven't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

World coin!

(Not really world coin is a terrible idea)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Bill Gates has been trying for awhile.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Mine is 075-21-9556 in case anyone wants it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

Can't believe ours are 2 numbers apart!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Hey, wait a minute! That one's mine, too!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I have your IP and your SSN

Hands up

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Glad that you guys think that you're so bold but why don't you post this in hacker forums instead?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)
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