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UmbrelOS: A beautiful home server OS for self-hosting with an app store. (github.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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OS for selfhoster. Here's a video by Dev.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I know this is a month old, but this was randomly recommended to me in YouTube and I watched their "ad", even though it's free to install on a Pi or any other device that can run Debian or Ubuntu.

It works well in a Pi, but their documentation is out of date, and accessing the web GUI isn't as easy as it should be, especially for new users of Linux. There's no way to (officially) set a static IP in the OS. I searched their forums, and followed their guide, which didn't apply anymore since they're using NetworkManager now. I applied a static IP via that...and FUBAR'd the webUI. A simple reflash of the uSD card doesn't work either since there are hidden partitions or something because the settings still persisted after two DDs. I had to zero out the first few megs and reflash it in order to get it to work again.

That being said. I'm going to give it to a friend as a no hassle/small footprint/low power piracy box and Plex server.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I tried Umbrel and i hated it. I switched to Cosmos and its great

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Seems like the consensus on this one is it isn’t worth it and until they fix their licensing it’s more risky to use as anything other than a day project. In fact, the licensing is kind of dubious for project work because of its weird stipulations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Glad it's beautiful, it should be good then.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There is a warning from a user on Reddit. Might be worth considering before buying. https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/16qekm6/dont_buy_an_umbrel/

[+] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

From Reddit:

“I bought an Umbrel.com home server hoping to have a dedicated device to run my favorite software on. I spent $500 and got an Umbrel.

Their "app store" is small, outdated (from an app update perspective), and filled with cryptocurrency junk. I should also mention that its difficult to use non-approved software, requiring your own GitHub repo with config files, docker setup, and a few other things. No one-click button to import software.

The hardware is half as good as a used 1L mini-PC that you can get on Amazon for $170, and itll give you more control.

The Umbrel has an HDMI port hidden inside, so if you want to use it you must cut a hole in the side for it. The only way to accees its interface is with a slow, buggy, and heavy web UI.

Don't buy an Umbrel, buy a $100 used 1L machine and save yourself a headache and $400.

EDIT: I asked for a refund and was denied since they don't offer them to anyone. Huge red flag!”

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Looks like yunohost with a nicer interface but less apps and less config options.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago (2 children)

umbrelOS is licensed under the PolyForm Noncommercial 1.0.0 license.

I've never heard of this one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Had the same thought..

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Source-avaliable, but not FOSS. You can’t take anything with the PolyForm license and use it for commercial purposes. Seems like using umbrelOS to set up companies with self-hosted applications might technically be against the terms of the license. Or even using the self-hosted applications for your own personal use and making money from any of them in some way may also be against the terms.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

A custom "source available" license that may not be as clear-cut as intended and depends on "we know it when we see it" by the authors of the license? You don't say!

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago

The fact that its so heavily geared toward crypto makes me uneasy. Otherwise it seems like an awesome idea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

How good it run?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Didn't tried yet. Waiting for Debian version but look very promising and begginer friendly.