Critics must rescore Dragon's Dogma 2 in light of microtransactions : games

[+] [email protected] -8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You really need to develop an identity. Your behavior in this thread is extremely concerning.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because I"m not OK with people continuing to spread dishonest information? That is a weird take. The amount of purposeful ignorance to the facts has become contagious around here. I try and point out how none of the shit talking around here carries any water, and somehow I'm the one that should be concerned. I did not realize I had stumbled onto Facebook, my bad. I'll let you get on with your misinformation farm, you have another election to deny coming up, must be a busy time of year for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I get you man. I see your struggle. It's okay to take something silly like a videogame. These people acting like they are above it while they are talking too. I still think the micro transactions fucking suck but I see you.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Currently, the shill /u/[email protected] makes up 22 of the 116 comments in this thread and all are baselessly defending this game

If you have an opinion, /u/[email protected] doesn't want to hear it and will tell you you're wrong

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Tbh, I kinda get both sides here. The precedent thats unfolding, not even being set, since this isnt the first game to do so, is bad enough to stain the game and be worth being pissed about. But also, since the entire game can be enjoyed ignoring the DLC even exists, its a fun enough game in a slightly more niche category that its also worth ignoring the precedent

edit: Aside from the nuance part of things. I personally am not super bothered by the precedent because I've sworn off AAA games for at least a decade now. The precedent that games of that investment level are going to use any shitty psychological trick to drain as much of that investment back from you has long been already set. An AAA game now has to prove its worth buying to me at this point, and my gaming experience has actually improved because we are currently in a golden era of Indie games anyways.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't care if they're for stuff that easily obtainable, I don't care that all of the other capcom games have been doing it too, I don't care that its a fun game. $70 and having ANY MTX is bullshit.

[+] [email protected] -21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Honest question since you have clearly played the game for a number of hours. How did the micro-transactions that you needed to go out of your way to even find, and are worthless after having actually played through the game, effect your game play? Was it because nothing in game is affected by them? Or was it that CAPCOM does nothing to push you towards them?

It was the fact that apparently nobody even knew they were their until somebody went out of their way to discover them that has affected my game play so much! How dare they put these useless items available for real dollars that only a fool would buy, and then after doing so only to find out they are useless. It has basically ruined my whole world, I may never game again! The horror! /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

that you needed to go out of your way to even find

CAPCOM does nothing to push you towards them

Hey Tim, go ahead and open up the game's page on any storefront and try to find the system requirements before you see the DLC.

People aren't saying that the items are useful. It would be even worse if they were. The decision to sell microtransactions in a single player RPG, regardless of how useful the things you get for them are, is inherently scummy. It's worth calling it out regardless of how useless the items are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

The full list of all available dlc is easily seen on the steam store page before you even buy it. The rest was covered well by another poster.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Do you even understand the point of microtransactions in these situations? When used for items in the game that you can just get by playing the game, did you even consider what involves getting these items? Like does it become tedious? Takes too long to find? Takes up I ventory space? You can only sometimes find them at a vendor?I mean CAPCOM could've made them easily accessible for you. Fast travel kits have no weight, buy them at any store. Customize your character? Sure just setup camp or go to a mirror to do it for free. But no, they created a system that is so subtle that it completely goes over your sheep brain and you either choose to ignore it or cope with the tediousness of getting these items and even if you don't buy the MTX the fact that there are some poor schmucks our there who will probably buy them because of the shitty system setup in DD2 is fucked up enough to be pissed about it, especially for a $70 game. CAPCOM didn't just do this to do this, actually think for a second. They obviously chose these items strategically to get those few people who say "eh I'll just buy this item real quick since it's only 0.50 and convenient". It should be convenient in the fucking $70 single player game itself!!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'll take the obvious bait here. The issue is that paying for a full game should give you a full game. For now the MTXs are like you said, for small items and not game changing. For now.

If the gaming community accepts this, who knows what the next step will be? Maybe they'll be kept small, but maybe they won't.

Remember this is the the same industry selling horse armor, selling over 2k dollars of dlc in the Sims 4, shipping unfinished games after millionaire pre-orders, and selling dlc that fix day one problems that shouldn't even be there. And they do this because the community never questioned when they were small enough problems.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In the interest of clearing up this continuing deluge of misinformation, I think cowboy at the end of his stream today said it better than I did earlier today. Plus he is likely to know more than anyone here as he had completed both endings before release with his advanced copy.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am a FIRM believer that a quality product will net you more sales than any cheap tricks will and if you really come out with a banger then you always have the option to add a MEANINGFUL DLC addition down the line, instead of content you made at the same time you made the base game and just decided to wall off and "release" later.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago

How many hours do you have in game? Had you played you would know that nothing available is "walled off". It is actually the opposite, and the stuff is basically useless to buy since you can acquire all of it through a normal play through of the game. No place in the game do you even feel like "oh man, I really need to buy that DLC or else this part is going to be impossible/different/less than/etc.".

And it's clear the people getting everyone all riled up about this stuff did not play the game either (or are acting in bad faith).

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

how did we end up in a reality where people are actively defending a 70$ release priced game that is single player AND has micro-transactions. A game like this should be thrown into the garbage and everyone should be unified on that. Like it being single player ALONE should make it so it doesn't have MT's but it has both SP and a 70$ price point?

[+] [email protected] -6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Cause the micro transactions are literally pointless. The only people complaining are the people who haven't played the game enough to know that NOTHING in the dlc is worth paying for. If you played the game for the first few hours, you'd earn more RC just by killing shit then the highest dlc package offers. Ferrystone are loot or gold. Barber shop costs gold too. Nothing is even that expensive.

The game is LITERALLY exactly like the first game except more content. The micro transactions might as well be called donations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm sorry but the whole point is the principle of it, I a consumer, and spending $70 ( which may I add is still at least $10 more MSRP than your typical game) which is single player, which pointlessly requires an internet connection(at least to start the game), has an anti-cheat(well technically an Anti-Tamper) and has microtransactions. The only thing this is missing is a battle pass and you have every aspect that the majority of the game Community hates.

This game is literally the embodiment of corporate greed and people buying the game regardless of that and saying "oh the microtransactions are able to be obtained in game anyway" are just eating the corporate "shit-pie".

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If you are ok with this, you are naive and not thinking about what will happen next. They will obviously push this bar higher with next game if they feel like it's acceptable because people didn't protest enough. Next game you might find yourself having to buy map access because they will say it's more realistic to play the game without the map, and then add micro transaction for it. Defending and accepting practices like this is basically destroying our gaming future. That's exactly how we ended up with games like Diablo 4 Micro transactions + 70 euro + paid expansions + battlepass in one game and there are still people defending it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Dude. I get that. If that was the case here I'd be up in arms too. But it's not. Not even close. This is the equivalent of complaining that you didn't get the "Twin Humanities" starting gift in dark souls. It honestly is inconsequential to the experience while playing the game. NOTHING is worth paying for and anyone saying that hasn't played the long enough to realize that. The game is perfectly playable in every aspect and you miss out on nothing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

It's not about being worthy or not. It's about pushing a new status quo of being acceptable to have MTXs on a 70 USD game.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Because enough people shell out money for things we used to get just by purchasing the game.

I'd wager half the current buyers of games nowadays don't even remember a time before dlc was ever even a thing. So to them this is just what gaming is.

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