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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

If this is all about some secret keys, couldn't they release the project without those keys, and ask users to get those keys through... Uh... Legal means. I think that's how they got around it in bioses for earlier consoles.

Edit: I see. Fuck Nintendo.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Hot potato!

[–] [email protected] 69 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Hopefully they can find a new home. I am ashamed of GitLab. I used to love it but they get worse and worse by the day. Maybe Codeberg would be a better home. Nintendo can't kill this, there will always be new places to host software and it's open source.

It's absolutely ridiculous they took it down even though Nintendo didn't DMCA the Suyu project directly. Shitty corporate cover-our-ass behavior at its finest.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I am ashamed of GitLab.

Don't be. Gitlab has to comply with the law.

It's the law that's broken, not Gitlab.

It’s absolutely ridiculous they took it down even though Nintendo didn’t DMCA the Suyu project directly.

Um, no. If shitty corpo X (ab)uses the DMCA to send you a takedown notice for some project and you also host a fork of the same project, you must take down the fork too.

"You see, while this might be the exact same code, the name is totally different, so we don't have to take it down!" will not hold up in court.

Whether the DMCA request is valid or not is an entirely separate question. You must still comply or open yourself up to legal liabilities.

The process to object to the validity of the request is included in the screenshot.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Removing open source code from the Internet just isn't possible

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So they're saying that since Suyu forked Yuzu, it also contains some cryptographic keys from the Switch, which is the docs violation? Didn't something similar happen to the dolphin devs?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

This isn't about copyright, it's about whether the software's purpose is to break DRM. Ninty argued that Yuzu's primary purpose is to enable copyright infringement which is forbidden under the DMCA; both infringement of course but also even just building tools to enable it. The latter is the critical (and IMHO insane) part.

Now, all of that is obviously BS but Ninty SLAPPed Yuzu to death, so it doesn't matter what's just or unjust; they win. God bless corporate America.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The suyu devs do not understand the legalities behind why yuzu was shut down. It wasn't because of keys. It was because it could break copyright protection mechanisms, which is in violation of the dmca.

The suyu devs think that by saying, "we don't support piracy, you have to provide your own keys" is enough, and there's case law to show it isn't. Your project needs to be incapable of breaking copyright protection mechanisms with or without keys.

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