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Please stop reporting all OF models as spam. If a post is off-topic, report is as off-topic. If community rules forbid OF models from posting, report that. If a user is flooding a sub with multiple posts a day in a row, that's a legit report as well.

Otherwise a post by an OF model is not in and of itself spam, even if it is made by a female with the temerity to control her own sexuality.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I personally don't enjoy OF posts at all. Why would I? I don't enjoy when prostitutes call me cute either. It's a business for lonely people.

I post myself, too, but only because I enjoy doing it for free, and because I enjoy genuine reactions by people who also don't make money with it. If a sex worker with an ad on her profile says " nice dick bro", that doesn't mean anything to me. My life would have been the same without her comment.

I don't mind seeing only few, but legitimate posts either. Imho selling should be contained to separate communities, not the other way round (allowing it by default and needing special places without it).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no issue with OF, but i don't want to be overtly advertised to.

If i find myself in a /c where OF spam is out of control and the mods don't wish to do anything about it then I'll just move on.

Many NSFW Reddit subs turned to rubbish when OF users spammed the hell out of hundreds of subs, when where there content was not a match for the sub. If this happens here then it will suck as well.

I'm happy for OF users to post content appropriate to the /c they post in and include a link to their OF in the body or in a following message. But having a pair of tits posted in an anal /c along with 50 other /c's with "My only fans 50% off right now" as the title... thats spam, clear as day, and it has no place.

And for those saying its content, there is no need to grow for the sake of growth, let's rather grow naturally and at a steady pace and maintain some quality.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Thanks for saying this…♥️ I’ve been saying this too. Obviously spammy posts within the communities is a turn off. Having a link in our bios to try to earn because we are posting FREE NUDITY is reasonable and necessary.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

This I'm totaly fine with. I hate being advertised to... really really hate it..... ... but if i see something i like and there is a subtle link in the message or a comment by OP that is totally fine.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I'm gonna be really blunt here, idk how it'll be received, but: without women who are paid to be naked, there will be very, very little content in OC porn communities.

I just see so many people on Reddit claim to only love "true amateur" content, but that content almost always gets hugely downvoted or goes unnoticed on the big subreddits. I think it's because people who don't profit from their stuff aren't always trying to make content with the widest appeal possible. They don't tend to care as much about being perfectly lit up so every nipple detail is visble. Or about getting the pose just right. Many won't want to show their face. You'd think the clearly true amateur stuff would be more celebrated, but it seems people want to see women make huge amounts of pro-level content just for funsies. That's not really realistic.

Edit: r/bigonewild banned OF posters and it turned into such a sausagefest that they changed their description to make it into a stated bi male centric community.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The people who like popular porn don't really go around announcing that they love professional-grade porn. They only do so when talking about the ethical consumption of porn, and their focus is on supporting people for their work, not the appreciation for the high quality or enjoying the financial transaction.

Announcing you like amateur porn is a statement about the flavor of porn you like, and it's pretty clearly a minority opinion, given what we see reach the tops of the porn forums.

I pretty much only like amateur porn. But you know what? I'm not going to stop anyone else from enjoying the kind of porn they like. Why should I? If you like professional porn, great! If you don't, that's okay too. Neither side should judge the other so long as they're not promoting harmful behavior of one type or another. There's nothing wrong with making a living by getting naked, there's nothing wrong with doing it for fun!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I dunno. Maybe I'm just being the salty OF girl, but it doesn't seem like anyone at all (on Reddit, not here) is willing to do anything besides grumble about advertisement when the subject comes up. I see mods of nsfw subreddits get downvoted to hell when they say they won't be banning Onlyfans users from posting, followed by tons of upvoted "where are the reeeeal women?" comments. The complaint comments get upvoted more than actual, perfectly good content posted by regular women. I just wish they'd be a little more supportive when those women do post, I suppose.

That being said, I totally agree that people should watch and make porn for whatever reason they please!!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree. Whether someone is “pro” or doing it because, the attitude should be supportive. Otherwise, the content will be shitty. It will only be dudes reposting weird as stock photos or stolen non consensual content.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing is, my ad block works on stated ads, but it doesn't work on the subliminal ones such as OF.

All the power in the world to you for doing what you do. I have nothing against it. (I mean, I'm against capitalism in general, but you clearly own the capital in this situation). There should be places where OF women/men can post their profiles so people can find them, the problem is the fact that it's everywhere that used to be more community and amateur based.

I think it's fair to say that the gonewild subs/communities have been taken over by folks who are always wild, as it's their profession. You wouldn't see pornstars posting on gonewild, because they aren't "going wild" in the sense of the basis of the subs, the old series Girls Gone Wild. The whole point was that it's regular people ("hot" or otherwise) posting something risque to step out of their shell. That's why you'd see a lot of cropped faces and such.

What happened is a few people like the one asian woman who's name I just can't remember, who were more attractive than most other posters, started doing it a bit more than just as a dirty little secret. It became the main part of their life. It became a job. Then due to her and others like her, people started getting the idea of OF, where anyone can skip the first part and just start selling sex pics/vids.

I'm not blaming her specifically, especially since I don't remember her name, but there was a definite change in the atmosphere of the gonewilds and by the end of the recent reddit fallout, most of those subs were 98% OF posts. You could click a username and see the same pic, with what had to be auto-generated titles, to as many possible NSFW subreddits they could find.

A big thing now as well is that the non OF posters are more self conscious in general, and might only be trying to post a few selfies a month. When they see what they competition is like (OF posts), they get discouraged. How is anyone supposed to be into them when all they see are these megahotties and yunghungguns all over the place. amateurs don't have the lighting and cameras to even compete with the lowliest OF posters. You can act like you support the amateurs as a creator yourself, but then you post next to them and try and act surprised? It's just a basic difference between amateur and professional (even if it's not corporate) content.

Honestly I think the biggest issue is that OF is a subscription model which forces workers like you into the shitty situation of having to continually make new content and finding new subs. Imho this ends up making the content very quantity over quality, and forces you all into having to advertise aggressively while being unable or unwilling to pursue normal advertising routes.

Just looking at the top cummunities (lmao) here, most are part of the gonewild trope and they're all filled to the brim with OF posts. again, you can't go wild if being wild is your job. You're just wild.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's advertising. I don't care for advertising. It's like if all food subs were posts by Kraft, Taco Bell, Lays, Ben & Jerry's, etc.

If people want to advertise, that's fine, there are avenues for that. r/gonewild got ruined by being filled to the brim with OF ads. Other communities had to be made to recreate the space that gonewild used to be.

the basis for r/gonewild was a place for REDDITORS to "go wild", not for women who are paid to do so, to then create a reddit account so they can have a place to advertise their product (their photos and videos) for free.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

r/Gonewild has specific rules about no OF posters. To the point that even if your post doesn’t mention OF, but you have one linked in your profile you get banned.

It made GW worse. Not just because OF creators have better, higher quality content that fits that sub, but also because as I pointed out once to them it was a dumb idea to block people who in most cases of OF creators don’t even monetize, or only do custom content. Otherwise the account is free to follow. Which is an important differentiation since diversifying where you post and where people can find you is a major thing.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I have a simple solution to this: If you are the moderator of your community, just put a rule in the sidebar disallowing OF links and references. Handle it on a per-community level.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the correct take. Is it any surprise that OF models generate a lot of nsfw content? Unless the users posting is too frequent, it's not spam. If a painter links to their webpage on a post where they share their art do we cry spam? Treating their content like spam entirely on the grounds of them being OF models is honestly pretty sex negative. Y'all should support the idea of sex workers having control of their own content.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Speaking from previous experience on Reddit, the OF models are the posters most likely to start spam posting.

That shouldn't mean we auto report them here, but it's behavior to be wary of and worth checking an OF account to make sure they aren't.

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