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Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)

Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.

Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc

(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama

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Firefish / .art / disqordia / iceshrimp / we didn't start the fire (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Trying to follow everything is, as always, tricky without the ability to really search for stuff on Mastodon.

Calckey, which was a fork of Misskey, rebranded as "Firefish" (for which name choice they have been widely mocked; also there's already a software company under that name in the UK with a trademark, which could be...interesting)
This also I think was meant to be the start of a push for more popular adoption of the platform, which has just generally led to a lot of buzz and attention
Apparently for some days the code was hosted on a far-right git host, which the main developer says they didn't know at the time; they eventually moved it somewhere else but didn't openly address the issue until later
Folks also noticed that the dev was boosting posts by someone with a reputation for being problematic/racist
.art admin removed the dev from a discord channel where instance admins share safety info, and says that subsequently the dev started circulating a fabricated screenshot regarding this.

Also, that is all coming a couple of days after someone who had previously contributed to calckey forked firefish as iceshrimp (lol) citing being erased from the list of contributors I think and also saying that other folks were leaving that community because of toxicity/safety issues that weren't really elaborated on in what I saw. I don't have a link for this because it didn't happen today and you can't search for things on Mastodon. My sense at the time was that I had basically no way to evaluate the claims made on either side.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is all terrible.

If I go on Mastodon am I supposed to check that the author of each toot hasn't done any crimes somehow before I click the little boost button? How would one actually go about doing that?

If you actually know someone has done or continues to do bad things that ought to get them ejected from the space, are you supposed to respond to that by refusing to interact with them while they are in the space, when they are not doing the bad things, as a sort of poorly coordinated attempt to eject them?

If we have a list of people so terrible that being nice to them means we should exclude you, then why the hell are they still here?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

My understanding is this is not happening because of one time thing. What has gotten people upset is the ongoing and repetitive nature of it.

Just boosting a toot will not get you in trouble. It only happens after people have discussed with you multiple times that the person you are boosting is problematic, and you keep decide doing it anyways and keep helping that person evade blocks.

Socially it is no different than if you try to introduce an awful person to your friends. At first they will tell you that they did not like that person and to not bring them around. But if you ignore them and keep doing it anyways, you eventually put them in a position where the only way to avoid the awful person is to avoid you too.