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Outlook got updated on my iPhone last night and now they want me to agree to having my data shared with 807 partners.

Important note: I don’t use outlook as my primary email provider. I use Proton with a custom domain but I keep outlook for some old emails.

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[–] [email protected] 143 points 8 months ago (13 children)

Ridiculous. How can someone write "we value your privacy" and then share data with 807 partners. If I share anything with 8 people I pretty much consider it public information already, unless I have a very good reason to trust them. Sharing something with 807 companies is probably less private than taking all that data, putting it up on a billboard, and placing that billboard next to the busiest place in town.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (22 children)

chad europe union, to expose that shit

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Yikes and a big hell no! Reject, uninstall, and review bomb that fucker into oblivion.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I wonder how many people haven’t realised that the new Mail/Outlook client, the one they’re pushing everyone towards in Windows, actually syncs all your mail to MS servers.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I have. Happily using Thunderbird now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I haven't. Mozilla Thunderbird FTW.

Also, I seem to recall my dad migrating to a new machine borking his email because of something like that. ( I didn't catch the details. he was grumbly and growly in ways only a unix admin could be.)

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

It's not that they now changed something with data collection and sharing within the update. They always did it, all services free of charge do it and most that cost money likely take the extra money as well.

It's now that they tell you in a short and informative way (1st sentence) and ask for your consent.

What's really infuriating, are websites and services that have an "Accept All" button but no "Reject All". Instead you have to manage individually and sometimes I have to flip 30 separate buttons to disable data sharing, where they even call advertisers a 'necessary 3rd party' requiring interaction on top.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I always flip the 30 buttons and then accidentally click Accept All because it’s in the place that I would expect the Confirm My Choices button to be and I am tired of looking at all the buttons and don’t read the most important one. I always tell myself I’ll slow down next time, but I’m just trying to get to the stupid website to read whatever stupid link I clicked on so I’m impatient every time.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

30? I've come across website that in this case would list out all 807 partners.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (4 children)

At least it doesn't say "Accept all" or "pay (monthly)".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That would actually be a preference. If it's a free product making money off of user data and advertising, having the choice to pay would be better for privacy concerns. If the app is worth it if course.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If they say they won't share any data if we pay, we can trust then...

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

The other alternative is "Accept All" or "Decline each one Individually by clicking three buttons to confirm your choice"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

At least there is one. Many apps don't offer that at all but make us go through hundreds of options and turn them off manually.

Until an update makes you do it again.

And again.

The worst. Usually an uninstall for me.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Took a screenshot and rejected straight away.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What happens if you reject?

Does outlook stop working?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Your ads aren’t creepily specific to you anymore

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Great, I love getting all the "looking for single women in your area?" ads instead...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I find the non-personalized ads to be much more palatable, as they don't pull on the strings that would normally get my interest. YouTube once had a 6 second beer ad that only included the crack of a can opening (sound) and the view of some mountains. It was actually kind of refreshing, and I didn't gain interest whatsoever in the product! I don't drink! I'm all for ads like that, if I have to be abused by an ad.

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