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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

17c/62f is on the low side of comfortable though

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember that since this is a planet-wide average, it includes places like the North Pole and Antarctica. Or just look at the graphs — it’s a pretty visual demonstration of how extremely abnormal recent temperature changes are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes the graphics are very shocking, to be sure - why is it only limited to 44 years though? do records not extend back further than that? I seem to remember reading somewhere that there's climate records from as early as the 1880s but maybe that was in England only.

though, even 44 years, while easily half of a human's lifetime, it's just a tiny blip on a geologic time scale.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Air temperature graph starts from 1940, that’s 83 years. Enough to gauge trends, since industrialization and copious CO2 emissions in particular are a pretty new thing.

But here’s some data starting from the year 0, in case you’re interested.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

ah, some actual data, thanks! still, it looks like an average variance of 1 degree celsius over 2000+ years.

let's be honest though - nothing is going to change in the next ~50 years or so, not enough to stop the slight raise in temperature. no one is willing to go back to living like medieval peasants prior to the industrial revolution. no one politician is going to enact any laws that will return society to that state. no coalition or governmental body is going to do it either. not in America, not in China, not in India, not in Europe.

we would need most of northern africa and all of central australia covered by solar panels, wind turbines everywhere, and probably actual fusion reactors generating power in order to markably decrease global temperatures.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's be honest though, actually solving this problem is pretty much unachievable given the lack of motivation and interest on the part of the populace, so why bother taking any action to mitigate the problem at all?

I'm really only interested in punchy 3 word concepts like "stop abortion now" or "fix gay people".

The whole idea of investing some effort now so that the world is better off to some unknown extent later is pretty much Socialism. We won the cold war.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The populace isn't who creates most of the greenhouse gasses. Try again.