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“I will no longer be complicit in genocide [in Gaza]. I am about to engage in an extreme act of protest,” the man apparently said before setting himself alight and repeatedly shouting “Free Palestine!”

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 8 months ago (5 children)

The pigs shouting "ON THE GROUND" to a person who is actively burning to death have got to be the finest example of cop brain. Everything's a threat.

I kind of wish this troop would have done something like sabotage or leaked Intel like Chelsea Manning, but I'm also not gonna deny the bravery involved. Free Palestine. Death to America.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (11 children)

Anyone who still visits reddit, how [deleted] is this story over there?

Edit: I've created a torrent for the video if anyone wants to help seed. His sacrifice in bringing attention to the US-sponsored genocide in Palestine must not be forgotten.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 8 months ago (1 children)

More bravery in this one man than all of the IDF combined. Rest in power!

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 8 months ago (2 children)

He was too innocent for this world. I don't know what to say other than I promise I will never forget him and that I'll try to spread his message and do everything I can to help free Palestine.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He is the fiery monk of our time. I watched the video below and I will admit after the second "Free Palestine" and the screaming started, I had to turn the sound off until he fell and I suspected the screaming stopped.

He is braver and has more strength than anyone on the Israeli side. I won't forget that this hero couldn't stay silent in the face of genocide.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago

I wish there was another option for him.

We failed to be organized enough.

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[–] [email protected] 140 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Looks like he was an anarchist comrade.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 8 months ago

deeper-sadness honestly sad, one of the few good troops to realize how fucked the system is and then did the utmost sacrifice in protesting the system

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

For those wondering, [deleted]

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's now being reported he died

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (10 children)

This guy is very brave, but everyone taking about the embassy security drawing weapons when they arrive. Of course they would. They don't know what was planned, if it was a suicide bombing gone wrong, our whatever else. I'm not pro cop but I don't understand why people are surprised by this. They are security

[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Sure, maybe if they drew their weapons immediately, before his act. That'd make sense. They wouldn't know what he was gonna do.

The trouble is, based on the reporting we have, they drew their guns after he lit himself on fire, not before:

as soon as he was engulfed in flames they started yelling at him to get down on the ground. They even drew their guns on the burning man before someone pushed them to get fire extinguishers to extinguish the fire.

I'm thinking by the time the guy was engulfed in flames he was a little too preoccupied to do much else.

Can you imagine facing a living bonfire, and your first thought is "I should draw my gun and tell them to get down on the ground"? There's genuinely no excuse for that level of inhumanity.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

What, exactly, would a gun do if he was a suicide bomber?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Shoot the suicide bomber before a bigger boom. What if there was another person? Another thing? We can't know, they can't know. We know now, due to hindsight.

They are security. They secure scenes. They aren't paramedics.

I am not making pro cop statements here, but all the comments about "ohhh the cop arrived to a dangerous scene with a weapon drawn!" Is like saying "the garbage man picked up the garbage bin when he drove past my house!" Duh!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

He's on fire! Shooting him wouldn't stop a bigger boom!

I'll give the cops this: they probably were not trained on what to do if someone lights themselves on fire. They just fell back on basic training.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Stop him before he got any closer to the embassy. Obviously a gun won't stop him from commiting suicide, but it could easily be the difference between one person dying and a much larger act of terrorism

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There's a metal fence. What would he even get close to?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Considering the security forces had no idea whether he was working alone or what was happening, they obviously didn't think they could rely on the metal fence.

Look, I'm all for a free Palestine and I agree that what is happening in Gaza is a genocide. I also think that voluntary membership in any American or Israeli law enforcement makes them complicit in the heinous acts perpetrated by American cops and the IDF, respectively. I don't know you, but I'd guess that you and I agree a lot more than we disagree on these issues. I'm just saying, from the PoV of the security forces at the Israeli embassy, this was a potential threat to the embassy and their job is literally to prevent threats from harming the embassy. Without any further information to go on, their decision to draw guns first and get the extinguisher second is reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If he wasn't alone what would shooting him accomplish? You still haven't actually presented a compelling reason he needed to be kept under a gun.

I think it's understandable that people untrained for a situation like this would fall back on the default, I know I wouldn't know what to do, but calling that "reasonable" as if it really makes sense in hindsight is a stretch.

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