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Are they responsible for the conditions there?

Of course all of the other "China is imperialist" claims are bullshit but it seems like this is true and could potentially lead to valid accusations of imperialism or at least bad regulations.

What's the reason for what's going on in the Congo, I guess? What is happening on a detailed level? I can't find many resources outside of blatantly western shit.

I know what's going on and like the bad things but I'm asking why basically. Is it China?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (11 children)

Forgive the biased US source, but it seems the share of so-called artisanal mining in the DRC has been falling steadily since 2008 going from 40-53% to 9-11% in 2020. If China is responsible for conditions there, then China is responsible for improving conditions there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is great if the conditions for miners are improving, but if all the profits and control of a strategic resource are not in the nations' hands, how is that not imperialism? How would China respond if the DRC were to nationalize the cobalt mines?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My understanding is that imperialism as a stage of capitalism is distinct because it underdevelops the means of production in order to superexploit labor and generate superprofits. Elimination of artisanal mining isn't just an improvement of working conditions, it's a strong indicator that there is true development of the means of production. Whatever problems there are with the relationship, without underdevelopment there isn't superexploitation. Thus, not imperialism.

I think.

Honestly I've only been reading theory for, like, a year. I am not confident in my assessment!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's a semantic justification of what is, in practice, imperialism or at least, imperialism light.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

In practice working conditions are improving, industrial capacity is increasing, infrastructure is being built, the means of production are being developed. That doesn't happen under imperialism, imperialism is marked by the production of superprofits through superexploitation, which is what makes imperialism a distinct stage of capitalism.

Foreign investment isn't automatically imperialist, otherwise it would be imperialism when a foreign company opens a mine in the US.

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