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    [–] [email protected] 28 points 1 week ago (22 children)

    I'll never stop hating that debian is labeled stable. I'm fully aware that they are using the definition of stable that simply means not updating constantly but the problem is that people conflate that with stability as in unbreaking. Except it's the exact opposite in my experience, I've had apt absolutely obliterate debian systems way too often. Vs pacman on arxh seems to be exceptionally good at avoiding that. Sure the updated package itself could potentially have a bug or cause a problem but I can't think of any instance where the actual process of updating itself is what eviscerated the system like with apt and dpkg.

    And even in the event of an update going catastrophically wrong to the point that the system is inoperable I can simply chroot in use a statically built binary pacman and in a oneliner command reinstall ALL native packages in one go which I've never had not fix a borked system from interrupted update or needing a rollback

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Good point! But I recently swapped to Debian 12 from Fedora 41. The latter needing constant updates several times a day. And despite this, it was not stable at all.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Fedora is good on laptops since it has the very newest kernel and thus includes all the latest driver fixes (which are needed for laptops like the Framework where they're actively improving things). On the other hand, it has the very newest kernel and thus includes all the latest bugs.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    ... and the latest security patches

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

    Debian also has the latest security patches

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