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The craziest thing of our time is that right-wing bigots claim to end the war fast with peace talks, while so-called “progressives” are going to prolong their proxy war as long as there is at least one Ukrainian still alive.
End the war fast by giving up land, and the people on that land. If you know anything about history Ukrainians under Russian rule is a completely unacceptable outcome to anyone but complete psychopaths.
Spoken like someone who clearly has zero knowledge of actual history. Especially considering a large part of the reason why the coup government in Ukraine began their campaign of ethnically cleansing the eastern population of their own country was because the people living there more strongly identified with Russia, wanted to be able to keep speaking Russian without persecution, and eventually pleaded with Russia to intervene on their behalf, which Russia fortunately did. But anyone who actually understands the history of the region is a "psychopath." lol
this is the first time I hear this story. the previous story was "cleaning out nazis" or something like that. it seems goalposts have grown wheels
Learning a second thing isn't some kind of subterfuge wth
this is not "learning some second thing", but learning that the deal was altered
What deal? What are you talking about?
it was an attempt to refer to the phrase "I've altered the deal, pray I don't alter it further"
Okay so you've clarified the incoherent thought behind your incoherent words. Is that it then?
https://i0.wp.com/geopoliticaleconomy.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Ukraine-borders-historical-map-expansion.jpg?resize=880%2C592&ssl=1
Edit: did you downvote before you confirmed the image is historically accurate or after you confirmed the image is historically accurate?
Nope, this was reality (not "the story") all along. Considering that it's known nazis who were running the ethnic cleansing campaign, it's pretty clear that you can't have one "goalpost" without the other. The fact that this is the first time you've heard this and think it's moving of goalposts really speaks to your utter ignorance on the topic. But I realize most westerners are completely ignorant on the topic sadly, seeing as the "pUtiN BIG MEANIE RuZzIa is EBIL dictatorship! Poor smol bean Ukraine!" narrative is the only thing that's allowed through the propaganda filter there.