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Summary

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and French President Emmanuel Macron held a call to discuss the potential implications of Donald Trump’s return to the U.S. presidency for Europe.

The leaders pledged to strengthen cooperation for a “more united, stronger, more sovereign Europe” in light of this possibility. Macron emphasized a commitment to European sovereignty while maintaining cooperation with the U.S. Additionally, German and French defense ministers plan to meet to coordinate on defense policies.

Trump’s ambiguous stance on Russia’s war in Ukraine and his critical view of NATO burden-sharing raise concerns in Europe about future U.S.-Europe relations.

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[–] [email protected] 175 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Europe needs to step up on Ukraine. NATO is out of the picture, the EU needs to stand in its place.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Europe needs to step up on Ukraine.

Realistically, I doubt the western european public opinions are ready to accept 20 year old kids coming home in a coffin. If we put boots on the ground, I expect the war to be more deadly than recent middle-east operations.

So while we could kick of Russia ass, I don't think we're ready to pay the political price, at least for Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is more about ramping up domestic arms production to fill the gap that is going to come from US production no longer going to Ukraine.

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