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Regardless of Putin’s decision regarding the war in Ukraine, Russia’s economy is facing a crisis due to factors such as sanctions, a shrinking sovereign wealth fund, and a labor shortage. The war has boosted growth, but Russia cannot sustain it without significant economic consequences.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 weeks ago (26 children)

I'm not an economist or even especially well informed, but... Isn't war kind of... You know. Expensive?

Yeah I know it could pay off in the long term if you just swept up a country's worth of innocents, genocided them and grabbed their land (Hi Israel), but... Fuck up the war badly enough, and there's not going to BE a long term, just because the economy collapses. Right?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Bold of you to assume China will just let russia collapse. Ideally, China economically subjugates Russia and makes it essentially a satellite state

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

All China wants is the mineral and petroleum reserves in Siberia. They don’t give a fuck about the population centers in western Russia.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Really. There's nothing in Russia that can't be had easier just by buying it. And all the Russians worth a damn have gotten the hell out of Russia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Remember that China is having a bit of an economic crisis at the moment

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

And water..Beijing needs water and lake Baikal is around the corner.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sure they can be re-educated as well as any other minority... (/s but not really)

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The plan is to split Russia, the west bit (with the people) goes to Europe to deal with, the east bit (with the land and more resources than God) goes to China.

And that gives us all 50-100 years of peace while both sides slowly digest what they have to deal with.

Yes, Europe gets the shitty half of this deal, but they also get security, and the only person to ever successfully charge from China, across the whole Russian steppe to attack Europe was Genghis Khan, doubt that's happening again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it was his heir Ogedei Kahn

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Genghis didn’t have access to thousands of poorly assembled Humvee knockoffs and millions of poorly trained mechanics to make them somewhat functional. I’m sure some of them could survive the drive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

The only drivable thing that would survive that is a Toyota pickup because they are unkillable

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