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Sorry if I'm the millionth to ask this, but what are some good trustworthy email providers? Even if paid. But if I'm paying it'd best if it's privacy focused. Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

as far as i am aware protonmail is pretty popular. I am hosting my own mail infrastructure but am considering to switch in the long run

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

I'm hearing about proton but they feel very scummy. Is proton(vpn and mail) actually privacy centered, doesn't log and doesn't sell data?

While I tought about self hosting an email, but doesn't that come with lots of problems, like you can't garantee five nines of uptime, or someone emails you cp, or websites not accepting custom domains? I also heard it's easly hackable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

May I ask what triggers thr scummy feeling for you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

It looks way to much like big corp. And money corrupts. Why do I get a calendar, a vaul, a vpn, and a mail service for free. I know it's limited services, but for free? I feel like I must be the product.

I get when it's a non-profit, or living off donations, but Proton is either of those

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think the free accounts cost them a whole lot. You only get 1GB of mail space, and the free versions have minimal features (e.g. you can only create one email filter). They make their money on paid accounts, which seems legit to me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

That's fair. Though the free service is more of an infinite trial tbh

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

money corrupts

This is exactly the reason that Proton became a non-profit:

https://proton.me/blog/proton-non-profit-foundation

Swiss foundations and their board of trustees are legally obligated to act in accordance with the purpose for which they were established, which, in this case, is to defend Proton’s original mission. As the largest voting shareholder of Proton, no change of control can occur without the consent of the foundation, allowing it to block hostile takeovers of Proton, thereby ensuring permanent adherence to the mission.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

Proton is still a for-profit company. However, there is now the non-profit Proton Foundation that is the largest shareholder of the Proton company (not necessarily majority shareholder).

Plus, non-profits are not guaranteed to positive. See OpenAI for example.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

To be fair, the Proton Foundation is a non-profit and is the majority shareholder of Proton.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago

The foundation is the largest shareholder, but Proton has not specified whether it controls a majority.

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