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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (18 children)

My dad once called a client stupid for continuing to ask for a feature that made no sense. Technically, he asked "why would you want that? What, are you stupid?"

Then he got chewed out by his boss who told him that clients who ask questions aren't stupid. My dad told her that the client asked a stupid question. His boss told him that it wasn't a stupid question, that she thought it was a very good question from an uninformed client. So then my dad called his boss stupid.

Then he got sent to sensitivity training. He completed the mandatory hours, got his certificate, and a letter recognizing his difficulties with reasonable discourse vs arguing and calling people stupid. The instructor recommended that my dad shouldn't interface directly with any clients anymore. So they made my dad's younger brother his supervisor since he could translate my dad's comments and questions into more diplomatic terms.

ETA: this story was from the '80s. He got better over time.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago (11 children)

That’s a bad look. He may be smart but that’s really unprofessional. You call them whatever you want behind their backs. You don’t insult clients to their face no matter how stupid they are. He’s lucky he kept his job.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Not a disagreeing with you but I worked with few engineers like this. This is the reason for project managers and sales people as a buffer with clients. They kind of made that joke in Office Space.

https://youtu.be/m4OvQIGDg4I?Oosz1OyOb9lRBLKT

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, I'm a dev who can actually talk to people, but I still have to go through 5-6 layers of business people mangling what the user said...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can 100% understand that frustration of not cutting out the middle man. In some cases it would be highly beneficial. I remember the story where they customer wanted to have the back of passenger plane open up, sales guy sold it, engineers did it without question. At the end someone asked why, it was because the customer wanted to quickly exchange air.... People loss their minds but management was too busy counting the money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's as if they don't remember playing telephone when they were kids.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

"Hey boss, @[email protected] says they don't like the new telephones? Says they're made for kids or something."

@[email protected]: I still don't know why I was fired... The boss kept telling me to shove the phone system? Maybe they meant push? Was I supposed to work on some branch of the phone system?

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