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[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 month ago (60 children)

Fourth turning theory is fashy crap written by a play write and a business fund manager (people with no credentials for historical analysis), worshipped by people like Steve Banon.

Accordingly it's totally subjective, a guessing game.

Truth is: No one can predict what's going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (56 children)

It's predicated on baby boomers not having hard times. There's no basis in reality. Not unless one were to believe baby boomers are all predominantly white upper middle class. Not to mention one must believe history was all sunshine and rainbows until their generation (millennial/zoomer/whatever) came into existence.

Do they really think people just walked right out of high school into wealth from the career factory? This is basically the privileged upper class. Which is the top percentage of their generation. Guess what? Everyone else had it hard!

So much of current day pop culture "boomer bad" stuff is based on these stupid notions. I wonder how people are going to rationalize when baby boomers are all dead and the class war still exists. I think some younger people are in for some serious cognitive dissonance ahead.

Apart from people parroting these things. Those who actually have those well off parents are admitting their own privilege. The parrots are too entranced to realize they're worshiping their own oppressors. The upper class. They don't know they are the cannon fodder in the cycle of hard times, revolution, and renewal.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

There's plenty of poor boomers. They're mostly dead on account of being poor, we're just left with the rich ones.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's true. But I think the point is that more opportunities were available to that generation. For example, both my boomer parents grew up in poverty. Dad was an orphan. They moved to the city with no money and made careers for themselves. Housing was cheap. That's not possible today without family wealth (in Australia at least). I'm a software engineer with an electrical engineering degree and I'll never own a house or retire. They bought houses on public service wages without degrees.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

BuT LiFe WaS WoRsE BeCaUsE MuH AiDs AnD MuH CoLd WaR

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

MuH AiDs

Literally an attempted genocide on the gay population. I think it's fair to say life was pretty tough for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Repeat after me:

No climate crisis + cheaper housing + no Tiktok = better times No climate crisis + cheaper housing + no Tiktok = better times No climate crisis + cheaper housing + no Tiktok = better times No climate crisis + cheaper housing + no Tiktok = better times No climate crisis + cheaper housing + no Tiktok = better times No climate crisis + cheaper housing + no Tiktok = better times No climate crisis + cheaper housing + no Tiktok = better times

Also where I live there wasn't any "attempted genocide on gays".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

no Tiktok = better times

This is boomer brainrot for it to make a three-item list of modern problems. People said the same shit about TV and even about books, not that I'd give tiktok much credit as an advanced medium in the same way those were. But it's just philistine to consider it a great societal evil on par with climate change and the housing market.

Also where I live there wasn’t any “attempted genocide on gays”.

You all may perpetrate one yet considering the direction your country is going in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

But it’s just philistine to consider it a great societal evil on par with climate change and the housing market.

I could have go on much longer, and of course Tiktok is not even close in the same league as climate change or the housing market, but still, those times were better than now.

You all may perpetrate one yet considering the direction your country is going in.

I hate Meloni and her party and if the government was couped tomorrow i couldn't be happier, but she's just all talk and no action and most Italians aren't as politically charged as Americans are. We just are apathethic, sadly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well AIDS was scary as fuck but Australia didn't have to worry too much about the cold war. Life in the 80s was generally pretty cruisy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

This. Were it for me, 70s, 80s and 90s on a loop forever and sucks for those countries/people who lose from it, but they have to sort it out themselves.

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