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    [–] [email protected] 101 points 1 month ago (45 children)

    The systemd debate is basically dead. There are very few against it, but many accept it by now. Just avoid phoronix forum and some other places.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (20 children)

    "Just avoid places that sysadmins and security guys frequent and get your opinions on systemd from memes and people running arch on home machine". Great plan.

    Systemd is absolute and utter shit, especially from security perspective.

    Noone was asking security guys but package maintainers.

    My favorite systemd thing is booting up a box with 6 NICs where only 1 was configured during the initial setup. Second favorite is betting on whether it will hang on reboot/shutdown.

    Great tool, 10/10.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    “Just avoid places that sysadmins and security guys frequent and get your opinions on systemd from memes and people running arch on home machine”. Great plan.

    So salty. Also twisting the things I said. I for sure like to visit phoronix, but I avoid the phoronix forum and advice was to avoid the forum.

    Noone was asking security guys but package maintainers.

    citation needed.

    Keep using Devuan if it makes you happy.

    [–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Not really interested in debating with average "I run arch btw" user. We are not in the same universe, things I have to audit and maintain are not in the same universe with things you do, so having such a smart advice coming from you is not a surprise at all. I could, after all, just roll out my own distro if I am not happy, amirite?

    I run systemd machines because I don't have a choice. It doesn't make it any less of a shit. Simple as that.

    But hey, tell me some more about systemd, I am really new to all this 🤔

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Not really interested in debating with average “I run arch btw” user. We are not in the same universe, things I have to audit and maintain are not in the same universe with things you do

    Sir, this is the Linux memes sublemmy.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

    Right. I am dumb 😕🤗

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

    Buddy lay off the Rick and Morty and take a shower

    "I'm not in the same universe as you!!!!!!" Get a grip

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

    Out of curiosity, why exactly do you not have a choice in not running systemd? Is it company policy / are they clients' machines?

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