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The coffee beans and hot water don't turn into coffee without the barista's labour.
The existence of instant coffee doesn't make it unnecessary labour: in the case of instant coffee the work was done earlier.
The fact that I can brew my own coffee doesn't make it unnecessary or unproductive labour either. It's production whether I do it or pay a barista to do it.
And it's not unskilled labour: if the coffee machines in any of the coffee shops I go to were self-service, they'd break down within hours from misuse. And when you have a really skilled barista, you can taste it.
You should tell your mutuals-with acquaintance that whoever's insisting to them that baristas are unproductive ought to be chewing coffee instead of drinking it.
Also, Marx’ distinction of productive and unproductive labour isn’t a moral one, but rather a strictly material one. Marx distinguishes between productive and unproductive labour strictly along the lines of whether the product of said labour turns a profit for a capitalist. Thus, the exact same labour process with the exact same resulting product can be both productive or unproductive, its categorisation is entirely determined by whether the product is a commodity or simply remains a good.
In your example, the barista making your coffee would be productive labour, whereas you making the coffee yourself would be classified as unproductive.