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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 months ago (13 children)

Can it still be called "Sid Meier's" Civilization when he doesn't even know what the game ships with?

Don't get me wrong, I've been playing since CIV2 and it's been pretty good, but that just strikes me as weird.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

ego move by a manager

imagine if todd wanted his name in front of every bethesda title

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

It's not like Bethesda called their games "Fantasy" - "Civilization" is such a generic name that I respect putting the author's name before it to avoid any confusion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A game by ~~Hideo Kojima~~ Todd Howard

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ehhh. The Kojima thing is at least somewhat understandable. He knew Konami was going to boot him out. Nothing like a constant reminder of who made the magic happen in the game they didn't let him finish creating.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well ok, but i assume you played mgsV i don’t think finishing the game was in the plan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

While I can see how that idea works incredibly well with the themes of the game, and I don't think the game was ever going to get a traditionally satisfying conclusion... there's a lot of cut content lying around in the files, on top of the "phantom episode" stuff from the collector's disk that was included in the special edition that documents the work in progress next chapter they had to cut.

Hideous Kojambles is a great auteur, but they idea that all of that was just a front to further emphasize the themes doesn't ring true to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not sure i understand? My main point is Hideo has a weird sense of story structure. Couple that with his endless perfectionism would see any company paying his way bankrupt before the game releases. MGSV has a theme change about 1/3 and 2/3 through the game. And the longer it goes the more off the rails things got. I don’t think they all get resolved properly.

When he got his own company started i believe that seeing the end of his wallet helped him focus the end of death standing early on which still has the classic Kojima crazy, and has a cohesive story. Art will form when it rails against its limitations.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Such a shame he couldn't finish it. Its gameplay is quite polished and the story isn't that bad. His games are usually very well crafted

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Well, in the way that Stephen King makes a well crafted mescaline fever dream.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

Iirc it wasn't even Meier's idea to put his name on the games. He was a well known figure in the simulation game genre so when his company was making Pirates! the other co-founder, Bill Stealey, had the idea of putting his name on the box because it was a big departure from their usual games. The idea worked and they just started using his name for every game.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago

Well, Sid Meier did originally design Civ, Todd Howard was "just" a director / producer.

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