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I wonder how far did Carlson's soul went during the seconds after it.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (38 children)

Also, Hasan's reaction

Ugh...sorry but i tried listening to ten minutes of that and i immediately remembered why i stopped watching him. He is such a lib and his audience is even worse. It's like they have the attention span of a five year old and are physically allergic to learning history. No, Hasan, Putin is not spending 30 min giving you a history lecture because that history (at least the pre-21st century history) somehow directly justifies the actions he is taking, that is not the argument at all. He is doing it to give you context and educate you because you and most of your audience are historically illiterate ignorants with zero knowledge about the background of a region of the world where you now think you are qualified to comment on.

From Twitter, this post sums it up best:

"Westoids complaining about Putin's interview being too pedantic have an inflated sense of self-worth: they assume the interview is primarily designed to appeal to them. Little do they know the West has become so irrelevant that it's no longer even necessarily the chief intended audience for Putin's transmissions. For instance, many of Putin's statements go viral in China, generating hundreds of millions or even billions of views/impressions on sites like Weibo, vastly larger engagements than the entire population of most of the West combined. In the east, where the citizenry is learned, historically-literate, etc., Putin's longueurs are actually appreciated, dissected, and discussed. This is particularly the case in China, where the majority of people are not only history buffs, but have a sacred respect for history and tradition.

In the West, Putin's words may fall on deaf ears and be drowned out by illiterate popculture noise, but the West is no longer relevant to the world. In other places, Putin's words will reverberate, consummating their intended effects."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

It's hilarious because if I told libs to watch the final epsiode ONLY of any show, it would rightfully be called out as ridiculous. Yet when it comes to real world historical context (not even getting into the morality of it), libs think the opposite.

Literally most series are like "last time on this show...."

Also yes, that's to be expected from Hasan and his audience. He is not gonna make money without appealing to western chauvinism (although I have seen a few exceptions). It's not stupidity, he is giving the audience what they want.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Libs and westoids love to vaguely gesture towards thousands of years of history to justify israel’s current day barbarism towards Palestinians, but start foaming at the mouth when Putin provides historical context

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yep, when the question arises of whether libs are stupid or evil, they are stupid in the service of evil is the conclusion I have come to. They don't want to learn anything that might make them reflect on anything counter to their self-interests.

They are also nationalists and American exceptionalists like trump supporters, it's just they realize you should hide it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Talk of “manufacturing” and “inventing” suggests an imposition over and against the individual’s will. I believe that, on the contrary, the process of Western propaganda is better understood in terms of “licensing”: the issuing of moral license for the bourgeois proletariat to profitably go along with bourgeois designs without the feeling of shame overwhelming. In this alternative account people aren’t “brainwashed” insofar as they don’t actually believe the lies, not in the way that we generally understand belief. It’s more correct to say that they go along with them, whether enthusiastically or apprehensively, because it’s actually their optimal survival strategy. When we concede that the time horizon and scope of responsibility within which we all make our decisions varies, it becomes much easier to see how their choice could be smart and intelligent. The enlightened critic can plead that if we all agreed to denounce the status quo in unison we’d be immensely rewarded, but the average worker in the first world cannot be accused of naiveté for preferring to keep a low profile, particularly after being subject — very often by that same critic — to so many grim stories of murder and of punishment and of how any attempt at radical change always goes awry.

Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of “Brainwashing” (2022)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh this is perfect. I need to give this a thorough read. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

read "Brainwashing" also, Day wrote it a year prior to Masses, Elites, and Rebels which sort of builds on and revises it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Awesome TY. Will read both.

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