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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (37 children)

There are many good arguments against God. This is not one of them.

It's a slightly more complicated version of whether God can create a rock so big he cannot lift it. Can God create a universe where I simultaneously have freewill and also don't have the ability to do anything outside his will (evil)? Can 0 equal 1? The answer to that question isn't yes/no, it's that the question is invalid. Freewill does not equal non-freewill. It'll confuse some unprepared Sunday School teacher, but that's it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What's your logic with 0 = 1?
Can you restate without math?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's similar to the "unstoppable force meets an immovable object" thought experiment.

They can't both exist, just like 0 can't be the same as 1. If you somehow "forced" it to be true because an all powerful deity made it so, the logic breaks, and the answer is effectively useless to us.

So then if a deity made freewill, there MUST be evil, or at least the capability of it. My metaphor is sorta inverted, but hopefully it makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

It very quickly gets into philosophy. We consider the ability to do evil to be part of our free will, but we don’t consider the ability for us to do djskwjejrj to be part of our free will. We still have free will, even though we cannot djskwjejrj.

Likewise, if we lived in a world that God created without the ability to do evil, but otherwise we had free will, we wouldn’t know of the limitations to our free will - therefore we’d believe we still had it. And in that world, we may also be able to djskwjejrj.

(I just keyboard-smashed to come up with that term, hopefully the metaphor carries.)

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