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Some time ago I managed to sell my 3070 ti and buy a brand new RX 6800 for the same money. 99% of my desktop issues are now gone. Seriously, if you don’t need CUDA, don’t bother… Get rid of Nvidia it is not worth the hassle
That would be giving into the Linux kernel and wayland driver bigots who set out to destroy NVidia on Linux, simply because of the driver's license. Linus, the kernel dev team, and wayland devs sought to break NVidia at every turn. A company that provided us with the best graphics cards on Linux for over a decade, because they couldn't get in and mess with NVidia's code and steal their secrets from their drivers. Don't give into to that level of zealotry. If anything, NVidia and their users should sue Linus and all the wayland devs for the years of crap they've pulled. All over a license. I love Linux, and am forever indebted to Linus for starting it... but this zealotry over licensing is why GNU never got off the ground itself; and they should be spanked for what they did to us. Wayland devs especially, they should be banned from opensource dev work forever and crippled financially for the crime they've committed.
Is it that people don’t mind sounding like morons in public or that they think everybody else is stupid enough to fall for their nonsense? I always wonder when I read something like this.
How is it nonsense? Linus himself in the kernel mailing list and in public speaking has repeatedly gone after NVidia due to their licensing. In the kernel, he's repeatedly cut NVidia off from using various kernel internals because they aren't open source; attempting to cripple their driver. That's fact. Check your history on it.
As for wayland, it could have been written to do absolutely anything they wanted it to do and be. They chose to not support NVidia due to the licensing, purposely choosing an incompatible way to display to try and force NVidia to change or to for NVidia to fall from it's spot as market leader.
I feel bad for NVidia, caving this. An open source driver coming out, them adding features to work with wayland instead of the other way around. It wreaks of extortion by the kernel and wayland devs, to damage market share if the devs don't get what they want. I hope they get sued for it and lose everything for it. It casts a terrible light on the open source community that it would make companies either capitulate, or the community tries to cut the company off at the knees. It was wrong and should be severely punished to prevent it ever happening again. As it is, no hardware company should trust Linux or offer to support it in any way, because it might turn around and bite you as it did NVidia.