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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Similar thing happened across the border, in Ukraine, with a pacifist being accused of "justifying the war", as reported by Democracy Now!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

Russian pacifists want Russia to stop invading Ukraine.

Lemmygrad / Hexbear pacifists want Ukraine to appease Russia and give up territory.

They are not the same.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russian pacifists want Russia to stop invading Ukraine.

Western "pacifists" want to send NATO tanks to Ukraine.

They are not the same.

Russian anti-war activists have a correct position.

But an important consideration should be whether one's actions actually contribute to Russia withdrawing sooner, or if they instead help justify further, equally self-interested NATO involvement in the war.

Unless you are Russian, it's most likely the latter.

There are two imperialist blocs involved in the conflict, and it doesn't matter which one of them technically started it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There are two imperialist blocs involved in the conflict, and it doesn’t matter which one of them technically started it.

I'm sorry, but when it involves one imperialist bloc invading a smaller country, then it does matter.

Do you have the same position regarding the Vietnam war, Palestine, Iraq, and Afghanistan? Or do you only support whichever side is not aligned with the US?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Vietnam War? You mean the one where a rebel faction backed by Russia rose up against a smaller, recently established pro-Western government, and the US came to the defense of that government, because if they lost the enemy would surely keep expanding more and more across the entire region, and all the peace advocates were dismissed as supporting appeasement? That Vietnam war?

Yes, we take a similar position on that as we do to this, do you?

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