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Antinatalism Rule (lemmy.blahaj.zone)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (21 children)

A person cannot consent to being born

But they also can't request it. What do you do for the people who don't exist yet that desire existence?

I should note that I have gone around the local NICU and requested all the children present to indicate a desire to stop existing. None of them agreed. Many of them were struggling mightily to continue to exist. A few even yelled at me for asking the question. I'll admit its a small sample size, but hard to argue with a 100% existence endorsement.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

That's just how evolution works- something that already exists and is driven to stay alive is more likely to pass on its genetics than something that is not driven to stay alive. This fact has nothing to do with the philosophy of consenting to exist in the first place.

Edit: missed your first question. Something that does not exist cannot desire.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This fact has nothing to do with the philosophy of consenting to exist

If living organisms are predisposed to prefer existence, this would imply existence is an inherently preferable state.

Something that does not exist cannot desire.

Prove it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

If living organisms are predisposed to prefer existence, this would imply existence is an inherently preferable state.