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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (16 children)

They're a solution, not the solution indeed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not really. At all. Like they’re barely even a bandaid.

The issue is a car weighs a couple of tons and it’s being used to move a person who weighs around 100kg.

It’s massively inefficient use of energy.

Even in some fantasy world where the energy used to charge the batteries is all renewable - not even close to reality but let’s pretend - all that lithium and other precious earths are still an environmental disaster.

The answer is mass transit and lower mass vehicles. A lifestyle change is actually required and the thing is it wouldn’t even make people less happy, just that change is so fucking scary for some reason.

Walkable cities are a dream lifestyle and an electric scooter in a walkable city is outstanding. Fuck urban sprawl.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fuck urban rents, how about that?

People who give this message like everyone is just choosing to screw the environment for fun make a crapton of assumptions about the forces people face in finding a place to live.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Fuck urban rents, how about that?

Boy I wonder where we might be able to find lots and lots of space within a city for new construction to densify it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

EVs are not limited to personal vehicles though. I absolutely agree on developing mass transit, be it rail or other, and preventing urban sprawl.

But cars (personal vehicles) and other vehicles will always exist (at least for the foreseeable future) and people will still need to haul stuff (garbage collection, artisans, deliveries, movers etc..).

I'd take an electric garbage collection truck over a ICE one for instance. It's anecdotal but there are roadworks in my neighborhood, and most of the machinery is electric which is very nice. Electric mopeds/motorcycles are also much quieter than ICE ones. You could also electrify buses, airport equipment, port equipment, trains (the diesel ones), mining equipment, etc.

So no, EVs are not the solution but a solution, and their development is a good thing if we want to move away from fossil fuels.

Edit: corrected thermic with ICE

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

And trains don't even need batteries, the biggest issue with EV cars

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