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[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (14 children)

This is a bit of a loaded question and very poorly written. Bad troll is bad.

The problem stands that modern "Libertarians" have been corrupted by corporations and conservative bigots to mean "elimination of government and regulation" and not "government to uphold liberty" like it originally did. A correctly Libertarian government would write laws that solely uphold the power of the individual's self determination, which inherently requires restriction of the power of capital.

I consider myself Libertarian, but I feel there now has to be a distinction made between "Capital Libertarians" and "Individual Libertarians". One wants the liberty of capital, the other wants the liberty of the individual. I find myself in the latter. Corporations can go fuck themselves, the individual is paramount.

"Socialist" things like public infrastructure, and yes, public healthcare, would be supported by individual libertarianism. Social support structures like these support individual liberty but restrict capital liberty by requiring taxes to support them, whereas supporting capital liberty by making it "pay as you go" does nothing but remove the individual liberty of the population that finds themselves without any capital through no fault of their own. I absolutely support universal healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This is also known as "Libertarian Socialism." Interestingly enough, this idea predates the current definition of Libertarianism by decades.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Interesting! I didn't know this existed, but I can align myself pretty well with this terminus. Thank you :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

This is probably where I align economically, but I support statist mandates that are inconsistent with "individual libertarianism" or "civil libertarianism."

For example, we should decriminalize drug use, but there should absolutely be a strong statist intervention where people are forced to stop using drugs.

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