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From Re-evaluating GPT-4’s bar exam performance (linked in the article):
Ohhh, that is sneaky!
What I find delightful about this is that I already wasn't impressed! Because, as the paper goes on to say
And here I was thinking it not getting a perfect score on multiple-choice questions was already damning. But apparently it doesn't even get a particularly good score!
Why is that a criticism? This is how it works for humans too: we study, we learn the stuff, and then try to recall it during tests. We've been trained on the data too, for neither a human nor an ai would be able to do well on the test without learning it first.
This is part of what makes ai so "scary" that it can basically know so much.
Because a machine that "forgets" stuff it reads seems rather useless... considering it was a multiple choice style exam and, as a machine, Chat GPT had the book entirely memorized, it should have scored perfect almost all the time.
The types of multiple choice questions aren't simple recall of learned facts. It requires application of abstract concepts to new facts, with a lot of red herrings. Here's a real question:
Studying for the bar exam starts with memorizing a bunch of rules, but actually getting out and applying them is a separate skill.
I feel like this exposes a fundamental misunderstanding of how LLMs are trained.
Don't worry friend, you are correct.
They're auto complete machines. All they fundamentally do is match words together. If it was trained on the answers and still couldn't reproduce the correct word matches, it failed.
You have the energy to spread misinformation and spam downvotes, how about an intelligent responses instead?
how about fuck off
How about I ban you for being obnoxious instead?
I like them rules you got here
"don't come into our loungeroom and piss on the floor" should be simple and obvious, and yet
@dgerard @TachyonTele that rug really tied the room together, man
They aren't auto complete machines, they are neural networks. Why are you trying to explain it when you clearly don't have the first idea of how thigs work?
the very funny thing is, all of the garden variety free text autocomplete systems I’ve worked with have been implemented using neural nets. it’s not like it’s a particularly new or novel approach. but surely the AI bros coming into this thread know that and they’re not just regurgitating buzzwords, right?