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Egyptian and US mediators have reported signs of compromise in recent days and Egyptian state news channel Al-Qahera said on Saturday that a consensus had been reached in the indirect talks over many of the disputed points but gave no further details. However, many analysts remain pessimistic after five months of stop-start talks that have frequently broken down

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (45 children)

Something I'm struggling to understand: if people say Hamas does not represent Palestine, why are they the ones representing Gaza diplomatically? Shouldn't the UN or someone step in so that Gazans can decide who their government is first, before anybody can make decisions for them -- especially a group of deeply corrupt oligarchs based in a different country?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (6 children)

The UN can't step in.

The US protects Israel from UN intervention.

The people of Gaza haven't been able to have an election for about 18 years because of conditions there.

Netanyahu's faction in Israel initially helped Hamas because they wanted to "divide and conquer" so that the Palestinians didn't have one government and couldn't negotiate a two state solution.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No elections because Hamas wouldn't allow any form of democracy. I know people are (rightfully) focused on Israel right now, but let us not forget what massive pieces of shit the Hamas leadership is. As far as I can tell this is the exact situation they were aiming for. Endless war. A situation we (as Americans or just humans in general, take your pick) have been, are, and most likely will continue to enable and inflame.

Same as it ever was

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

They're a last-ditch liberation movement with four discreet wings of praxis, dude. Moreover, the Palestinian Authority is collaborationist with occupying forces - this isn't about manufacturing an endless war, though I'm sure Lockheed Martin and Elbit shareholders would love that - this is about reclaiming tangible avenues for political agency that were either captured or outright denied, violently, by 'Israel'.

You disagree, sure, but you don't seem to understand the inhuman scale, decades of systemic violence, a population has to endure to make violence the only mutually understood language left.

Also - to your point - it doesn't help how many peaceful community leaders, politicians and organizers have been assassinated by the IOF and settlers in the last 75 years. Democracy, as presented by the PA, was never earnest or effectual in occupied Palestine - it was always a membrane of indigenous skin stretched over the occupiers demands.

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