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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (23 children)

This does sound like appeasement. If I buy a book, be it a copy of the Koran, 50 Shades of Gray, or anything else then it's my property and I should be able to do with it as I wish. If someone else gets offended, that shouldn't be my problem.

We shouldn't tolerate the intolerant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (22 children)

What do you think of "no burning any books" That way it's not about catering to a religion, and if you burn a book in your home who's really gonna stop you

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Why dictate what someone can and can't do with their own property?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Because they are using it to incite violence and hate. I'm big on the fuck all religions bandwagon but burning a religious text in front of said religious group is just being a dick.

We tell people they can't do stuff with their property all the time, if it's affecting their surroundings negatively as is clearly the case.

It's also always the same book that gets burned, there's clearly a heavy undercurrent of xenophobia. You wouldn't be asking this question if it was a Torah instead.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why can't religious people just grow up instead of throwing violent tantrums over everything they don't like?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because politicians and ideologues that use religion as their tool want them to stay childlike

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I partly agree but this is about personal responsibility. If someone is trying to provoke you, your reaction is entirely your decision. Someone burning your holy book didn't "make" you retaliate. You made this decision yourself and should own the consequences.

It reminds me of the rationale for requiring women in some countries to cover their faces, lest the sight of an uncovered female face "makes" the men rape the woman.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why can’t trans people just grow up instead of throwing violent tantrums?

Why can’t women just grow up instead of throwing violent tantrums?

Why can’t jews/muslims/insert group of your choice grow up instead of throwing violent tantrums?

See how fucking stupid you sound?

Equality means equality and we shouldn’t be selective about enforcing it. If a group of people are offended by something, grow the fuck up and stop doing it. Period.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you on about? Religion is a mental illness forced on children through abuse. No one is born with it. It's not a choice. Why should these violent maniacs dictate policy for normal people?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow dude, wow. You are the one that actually belongs in a mental asylum.

Seek help, seriously.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why? I don't have any delusions and I don't perform ritualistic genital mutilation on infants. Please explain yourself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah. I’m good. But go see a therapist please.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

That's not even an argument, let alone a persuasive one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You wouldn’t be asking this question if it was a Torah instead.

Can you expand on this assumption for me?

Yes, burning a Koran in front of Muslims is a dick move but it shouldn't be against the law in a secular Western country.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There would be a justified outcry if a Torah was burned in front of a synagogue. The instigators would quickly be villefied and called Nazis. At the minimum, no one would be actively defending it.

It shouldn't have to be against the law, but people are abusing to the point of starting riots. It's disturbing the peace. I lump this in with following people and screaming racial slurs constantly at the top of your lungs. Freedom of speech only goes so far, I'm okay with banning clear hate speech and similar actions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It makes no difference to me if someone is burning a Torah, Koran, Bible, or any other religious text, as long as it's their property they can do whatever they want with it.

I think we're placing too much emphasis on the person being provocative and acting like a dick and not nearly enough on the people who resort to violence over these provocations.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about burning crosses on someone's lawn, or flying Nazi flags? Lmao, they could just not burn the damn book. Usually, people being dicks don't have a army of people coming to their defence.

Obviously you don't care, you aren't the one being personally attacked so you can just overlook it. But if this happened in a vaccum, you wouldn't be defending the Nazi burning a Torah infront of a synagogue yet here we are.

Look, I hate the policies in the middle east as well, but I'm able to differentiate between individuals and governments. This is Muslim hate and nothing else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You should stop trying to misrepresent my position, it doesn't help you at all.

If an asshole is trying to get a rise by burning things the worst thing to do is to give them what they want. Where I live we have an old guy who regularly flies the confederate flag. He's a sick old fuck who only wants attention, or better yet, a chance to shoot someone if they try and take the flag down. What can be done?

The only solution that makes sense is to ignore the loser and not give him the attention he so badly needs.

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