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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Yes, all because of western hatred, fuck all to do with the people who invaded in the first place. They're all imperalist fucks but takes like this on the situation are just completely braindead.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

the people who invaded in the first place

Where have you been for 8 years? 2014-2022

What do you know of the modern "civil conflict" in Ukraine? Do you know what happened in 2014? Are you aware of who began massacring who that year?

(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_have_you_been_for_eight_years%3F#:~:text=%22Where%20have%20you%20been%20for,pointing%20out%20to%20what%20Ukraine)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Holy shit, NATOpedia made an article saying "Hey, there might be actual historical context to this situation and Putin didn't wake up on February 24th and decide to murder a bunch of people because he's a very evil bad bad man and King Zelensky shall slay the dragon and then we all live happily ever after." is actually Russian disinformation? Oh my fucking god. These people are unbearable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That article is amazing

More than 3,000 civilians were killed as a result of the war in Donbas (2014–2022), but there is no evidence to support the claim that Ukraine committed the genocide of Russian-speaking people or ethnic Russians in Ukraine.[8] Before Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the intensity of the hostilities in the Donbas had been steadily declining since the signing of the Minsk agreements in February 2015.[9] For example, according to Ukrainian authorities, 50 Ukrainian soldiers were killed in clashes with Donbas separatists in 2020.

  • civilians have died in Donbas but it's not the Ukraine government
  • things have been getting better since the Minsk agreements (no numbers)
  • for example, [only] 50 Ukrainian government soldiers died in 2020
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's hilarious. What should happen after signing an agreement is that the violence should stop! Gtfo with this things were getting better but we won't provide any evidence to back this claim up bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Reminds me of how ingrained the presupposed eternal nature of this imperialist hell is into things like statistical analyses of police violence.

For instance, I once had a guy in college (who is now a professional Republican lobbyist) tell me that there was indeed a racial problem behind police violence in the U.S.! The racial disparity between how many white folk and how many black folk were getting killed, he agreed, was appalling. He said, however, that over time that disparity was shrinking, and officer-involved fatalities were reaching "equitable levels between whites and blacks!", so we're actually on the fast track to progress, not regress.

The disparity was shrinking. Not the actual amount of murders.

The wanton and brutal murders committed by police are not the primary issue, they say, the opaquely racial disparity between who is being murdered is.

A game of images. A perfectly logical conclusion to this train of thought is that police should simply murder more white people to prove that racism is over, to make state-sanctioned violence more equitable. Murder, but be inclusive about it!

This is the presentation of the issue by those who acknowledge that there even exists a racial problem. There are plenty who outright deny its existence and still more who celebrate it. Politicians who claim to oppose police violence (especially the phenotypically-motivated kind) will nevertheless be found supporting legislation that further militarizes the police. This is how Amerika does politics... never harm reduction, only harm redistribution - at best.

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