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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (36 children)

I mean what do you expect...

Also im pretty darn skeptical of all not Proton VPNs.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (19 children)

Proton is unfortunately using wireguard and openvpn protocols, both of which can be blocked with relative ease.

I used them before moving to China, and within 3 months of arriving, the service was permanently interrupted, and their support acknowledged the outage, said they can't do anything about it, and ghosted me on the refund request since I had an annual subscription.

Mullvad is generally considered the industry leader btw., though for China there's hardly anyone but Astrill that actually works.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected]
In China there are lot of home brewed solutions like openclash, passwall, vmess...etc. Traditional commercial VPNs are too expensive or suck in China.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean i don't want to be in China in general. Proton worked fine last time i was there (10 years ago) and they are working on a stealth protocol to circumvent blocks of wireguard and openvpn protocols.

For China the best option is using TOR anyway.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

LOL, China is not that bad, and the GFW is easy to break through anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

LOL, China is not that bad,

It is one of the worst places on earth.

and the GFW is easy to break through anyway.

Initially maybe, but they use a Algorithm to detect VPNs and other holes in their filter and they will block you eventually, or they just scan your traffic regardless of a VPN (yes that's possible, although very Costly)

And then you are fucked.

Also, fuck China.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Have you ever been to China? I have been lived in China for many years, actually no much complains of my very own experience so far.
And I'd been to US, Indonesia, Thailand...and the worst experience I had is in US, each time I visited there, there were gunshot incidents happened nearby, and homeless people, bad smell on subway...I am not saying all US places are like this, I only visited CA, some places are cool, but I definitely won't go out alone after 8pm in the dark.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago

What makes them a "troll"? Their comment was exactly the same as yours - subjective opinion based on their claimed experiences living there. Neither of you provided any factual evidence. You sound like someone who wants to live in a bubble where anyone who disagrees with their world view is a "troll" and instantly blocked. Ironically, quite a similar outlook to the Chinese government you so despise.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the problem I have with those is that they are mostly run by Chinese, be it on- or offshore, and they can be compromised or extorted. And any service that accepts payment via alipay is sketchy in my books.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's opensource, You can get a vps and run your own, very easy and the speed is enough to watch 4k youtube.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I had a shadowsocks server on a vps, was dead after a few weeks. Hosted on AWS Hong Kong (before China took over). They blacklist IPs very quickly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@[email protected]
SS on AWS is easy to be found and blocked, try Trojan, Hysteria v2, V2Ray..., I had one of V2Ray on GCP hong kong, and it lasted for a very long time.
Usually GCP and Azure has the best connection to CN.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Interesting, thanks! My astrill subscription is still running for a couple months, but will test it as a fallback.

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