Ask Lemmygrad

801 readers

24 users here now

A place to ask questions of Lemmygrad's best and brightest

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

Will we achieve global socialism before climate change kills us all? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

78 comments fedilink hide all child comments

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (9 children)

Kills us all? how? The world population has grown but the number of deaths from natural disasters has decreased to a fraction (graph at the bottom).

And cold weather still kills way more people than hot weather. Warming has actually decreased the temperature related deaths.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2023/07/19/excessive-summer-heat-can-kill-but-extreme-cold-causes-more-fatalities/?sh=135860881d88

Interestingly, during the 2000-2019 period examined in the study, while heat-related deaths rose, deaths from cold exposure fell. And they decreased by a larger amount than the increase in heat-related fatalities. Overall, researchers estimated that approximately 650,000 fewer people worldwide died from temperature exposure during the 2000-2019 period than in the 1980s and 1990s.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

not the most well read dude, but my understanding is that as there is more energy in the atmosphere, there will be more unstable weather patterns - and will lead to crop failures.

this will most likely hit the global south and nations that are less developed (exploited nations such as the global south) harder than the developed nations. people migrating because they can't live in the deadly heat, or not having enough food, or something about florida going underwater (iirc they won't insure houses in florida anymore because of global warming and rising sea temperatures.)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-climate-change-impact-assessment-1.6964662#:~:text=By%20the%202080s%2C%20the%20report,average%20of%20about%2016%20days.

edit i don't think people will want to lay down and die from the inhospitable environment, they will probably move - i don't think looking at the death toll and saying "see there are less deaths from the climate therefore climate change is not significant" is a good form of analysis, it seems like a bit of a kneejerk reaction, that needs more inspection - like quality of life, crop failures, if you can go outside without heatstroke, these things are gradually ramped up on a scale

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I have some friends who live in Florida and, due to work, have to go on the news and say that although Florida is being hit by climate change that it's still a good place to buy a home. But, privately, they all know that shit is going down and it's a terrible place to purchase a home.

For any comrades in Florida who expect to live longer than a decade or two, don't do it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes, OP and his post are talking about the death toll and extinction, I replied in kind.

Changes in the climate might decrease yields, however CO2 concentration directly increases them. This should recover 60 to 110% (net gain for wheat) of the losses due to climate change depending on the crop from 2000-2080 according to NASA.

https://www.nasa.gov/technology/nasa-study-rising-carbon-dioxide-levels-will-help-and-hurt-crops/

load more comments (6 replies)