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German children ‘should be prepared for war’ 🤡 (www.telegraph.co.uk)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Or Russia could not invade other nations?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

Jesus Christ how do liberals even manage to crawl their way here...

Here we go again.

They had fucking Neo-nazis right at their doorstep shelling the Eastern portion of their country (who's comprised of mostly Ethnic Russians) and a terrorist geopolitical group (NATO) was arming them. This whole conflict was fabricated by the West and the Ukronazi regime that took power back in 2014 with Western influence to destabilize and further weaken Russia because, guess what, Imperialists loved Russia in the 90s and due to the nature of the parasitic system that is Capitalism, they need Russia to become a subservient state.

Overall this whole war that started in 2014 btw had 3 objectives (imo):

Deindustrialize Europe: Make them more dependent from the US [success]
Isolate and weaken Russia [FAILED]
Turn Ukrainians against Russians and increase US influence across Europe [success]

Also, a few days ago I posted another comment (probably more detailed than this one) answering this exact question (not even a question, just bad faith):

It's a completely different situation. Ever since 2014, after the western-backed Euromaidan protests, Ukronazis (bunch of nazi battalions that have permission from the government to run wild) have been shelling Eastern Ukraine, killing MANY innocent civilians in the process. What Ukraine did (and is still doing to this day) can be considered genocide, since it systematically targets Eastern Ukrainians, who mostly speak Russian and tend to identify more with Russia.

Crimea held a referendum back in 2014 and most Crimean citizens voted to join Russia and the same also happened in the DPR and LPR in 2022. Guess what? The west's excuse is that both referendums were rigged (they weren't).

Oh, and remember how NATO broke their promise of not expanding eastward after the dissolution of the Socialist Bloc? Do you also remember how Ukraine constantly broke the Minsk agreements and how many times Russia tried to warn the west and Ukraine? By all means, this war is tragic and my heart goes to innocents who lost their lives, but it was predicted by many a long time ago.

Palestine was occupied by a settler-colonial state called Israel, the only democracy (aka US puppet regime) in the Middle East, that has slaughtered countless people and is now waging genocide against the Palestinians. It's an ethnostate with policies that make it possible to dub it the modern Nazi Germany.

The situations are completely different. You're looking at things from an idealistic point of view.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (5 children)

First things first, based on what you just said about the Ukrainian war, do you support the invasion of Iraq for the explicit purpose of regime change (getting rid of Saddam Hussein) (not the bullcrap about weapons of mass destruction).

Regarding the referendum,there were calls for boycotting the elections from people who wanted to remain united (in a way, a bit akin to the referendum of Catalonia in 2017). Thirdly, it still remains extremely suspicious that a new country that allegedly wishes to get international legitimacy would not try to get any international observers, from any country, not even from the "Global South", China, none at all.

Regarding the Minsk agreements, it appears that there were several violations from both parties, from both sides not committing to the ceasefire for several days, the Ukranians failing to approve the constitutional amendment as mandated per the Minsk agreements, and the failure from both the LPR and DPR to organise the local elections. And I would guess that Russian intervention should be limited to either sanctions or limited intervention in the Donbass region, not a whole invasion of Ukraine.

When it comes to NATO expansion in Eastern Europe, it is absolutely shameful to violate such an agreement, and there is plenty of documented proof regarding it, even if it was just a verbal agreement. But it is not exactly like the Eastern countries were forced to join NATO.

Finally, who the hell brought Palestine into this, this whataboutism is at the level of Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I was about to reply to this after a busy day, but it seems other comrades have already done it. Also the Palestine thing was because I literally copied my comment from a few weeks ago.

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