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US women are being jailed for having miscarriages -BBC 2021 (www.bbc.com)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (41 children)

And there it is. This is the main reason I'm effectively pro-choice, while technically being pro-life.

In case anyone cares, here's my specific policy preferences:

women can never be charged with a crime for seeking an abortion - it's the woman's right to do with her body as she chooses
the government should not be involved at all while miscarriage risk is high (say, 20 weeks or so)
doctors should be the targets for any illegal abortion procedure, and medical data cannot be the subject of a subpoena (that would otherwise violate the women's privacy)
after the initial "hands off" period, doctors (or anyone other than the mother) could only be charged with a crime for knowingly performing an abortion illegally, and abortions would be allowed to preserve the mother's life or to euthanize the child if complications would be significant
if a mother decides to not keep the baby, the delivery should be performed as early as is safe, and the costs would be covered by the state

I'm okay with abortion being technically illegal, but the above would likely make it legal for all intents and purposes, and I'm okay with that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (8 children)

And the government has an obligation to every child born to make sure it is healthy and happy from then on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

Um, no? Parents have the obligation to make sure their kids are healthy and happy, and the state should only step in if parents either give up that responsibility or fail to uphold it. That's why we have child protection services, public schools, Medicaid, etc.

But at the end of the day, it's not the governments job to take care of you or your children, that's your responsibility. The government should only step in if you're incapable or unwilling to do it yourself. It's a safety net, it's there to catch you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Great! So glad I'm responsible for building schools, teaching, paving roads, making baby formula, developing vaccines, providing neonatal care, being a pediatrician, providing daycare, being a dentist, being a pharmacist, growing food, being a bus driver, and more!

Or does the word 'infrastructure' not exist in your vocabulary?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

When did I say infrastructure isn't a good thing? We're all responsible for contributing, that's what a society is. I'm merely saying it's not someone else's job to take care of you, that's your job, though there should be safety net to make sure everyone has a fallback plan.

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