I am a bottom and a healer
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My personality as a medic - ze healing is not as rewarding as ze hurting
Y'all debating if DPS or Healers are bottoms and sleeping on the bottomest role of all, the Tank.
Being a Tank is all about getting a train run on you until you can barely move and then leaning in for some aftercare. And you do barely any penetrating. It doesn't get more submissive than that.
What about Doc in siege? I don't feel like he's a bottom.
There's a moment where it stops being about "I can heal my entire party!" and it becomes "I choose who lives and dies" and finally "If I choose wrong the raid is lost"
eh, i always feel like good supports can make or break a team. like if you're a good DPS player, whoopdie doo, anyone without a life can train themselves to oblivion for some mechanical skill but the game sense, decision making and reactions needed for support players are much more impressive to me.
there's nothing that feels more awesome to me as a (generally) DPS player to take insane risks and get out alive due to supports having your back. never felt like a top/dom in such situations. more like buddy cops.
My one true MMO addiction in my younger days was City of Heroes, where I was an Empathy Defender (healer/buffer). I played pure support and never attacked enemies at all, because my attacks weren't strong enough to be impactful, and enemies would aggro me and kill me off in 1 hit.
When people asked why I didn't contribute to damage, I explained that staying alive and helping the other 7 people on my team to do 20% more damage and stay in the fight was a much bigger contribution than adding another percent or 2 to damage before I got 1-shot and the team wiped.
i am once again asking people to stop conflating bottoming and subbing
bottom means your on the bottom, sub means your submissive. you can be a dominant bottom and a submissive top. i've been both
anyways healers will dom you, it's tanks that will be submissive. we're masochists
More like GAYmers, hehe
Are you kidding? Healers are the ultimate in big dom(me) energy. We hold all the power. You will beg us on your knees for just a taste. What's that baby? You got yourself all beat up and now you need some hit points do you? Just a few little hit points to keep you going? You little slut. You little hp whore. Say you want it slut. Say you want that healing so bad. Say you'll do anything for it.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
That’s hot. Power me up, doctor.
-a power bottom
Buddy, oh buddy.
The power bottom is the DPS.
No, you know what, scratch that.
DPS are bratty subs.
They act all tough, they push your buttons, but they know they want that healing so bad. Thirsty little bitches.
Yeah my Mistress plays a healer. As a bottom I’m way more of a tank
LMAO! I mean they basically extend your HP bar to infinity, limited only by their cooldowns and mana pool.
It's OK, I'm a bottom so it makes sense that I'd play healer
I play healer sometimes because it's a fun gameplay challenge to keep bumbling idiots alive long enough to get a victory.
Switch 🫵
Power bottom
I'm nowhere near as into MMOs as I was years ago, but I honestly preferred non-DPS roles. Healing was my forte and I actually feel proud of myself for nearly clearing Icecrown Citadel Heroic during my WoW heyday. Had to quit several weeks into joining a decent guild because of sixth form.
Dunno whether it's a European thing but I've always found MMO (and MOBA) communities to be toxic-as-fuck and that's what turned me away from hardcore raiding. Things were once so bad that I got bullied and harassed off of a server (Turalyon EU, horde side) during my teenage years.
I could write an entire novella of negative experiences I've had with players in both game genres, but I'd be going off on a massive tangent.
All I'll say is that this meme is accurate. Healers get a lot of flak when things go wrong, and it takes a certain level of masochism to actually want to play with the kind of verbally abusive, sociopathic, basement-dwelling turbovirgins that flip out with slur-filled nerd rage, messages telling you to off yourself, and wishes that you'll die of cancer, all because you didn't parse highly during a raid boss or didn't carry their hardstuck asses in a Ranked League of Legends game.
The hardest part about World of Warcraft (at least from a PvE perspective) isn't playing your class well. It's having to wade through a community rife with elitism, gatekeeping, unattainable catch-22's to join a raid group and toxicity. Final Fantasy XIV is a bit better, but that's because unlike Blizzard, Square Enix actually invest in customer service and actually enforce their player conduct rules.
Avoid EvE Online at all costs. They are the most toxic group of nice guys that just wanna kill you, that I've ever found.
That wasn't my experience at all, but my guild was made up of grown ups with actual lives IRL. Sure we were pretty casual by most standards, but raiding was fun and toxicity was shut down instantly.
Yeah casual guilds don't really have those issues because the requirements for skill at low raid tiers are so lax. Honestly the game kinda lends itself to toxicity when you play in 25-man groups, and it only takes a single person messing up in a mythic raid to ruin the pull for everyone. When it's like that, isolating the "problem" player is going to be pretty common, and people tend to be more elitist and toxic in general when they are hiding behind a computer screen.
That's not to say a high level guild can't be positive and supportive, though. One of the things I like about watching RWF is that most of the high level guilds seem to have such a tight bond, and they never point fingers over a single raid wipe. They're all in it together and come up with ways to compensate for each other's weaknesses. But it probably helps that every player is highly invested in playing absolutely perfectly, and I'm sure getting a guild to that point requires aggressively cutting out a lot of weak links along the way 😐
Toxic guilds is why I stopped playing wow. Can confirm. Also healing is both harder and more fun than dpsing when done right
i think the idea here is, that bottoming is like helping someone (the top) out and more selfless. you arent doing it because it feels good, but because someone else wants to penetrate something.
i think this is an interesting idea. it seems very patriarchical. seeing bottoms (traditionally women) as passive, submisse sex object, that dont need to enjoy it. its all about the dominant tops (traditionally men).
i think some parallels can be drawn from this incorrect image, to how healers are seen by those they heal
"Helping people is gay"
It's a joke, not a dick. Don't take it so hard.
Peak t-shirt slogan humor, I'm sure. Very ironic. 👍
Is topping in this situation not gay? Are we doing Roman rules?
I was (am?) very fond of mid-high level Nurse Maya in Borderlands 2 but since my damage healed my crew it justified spamming high area-of-effect damage into the fray, so she was healing and crowd control.
In fact, the Bonus Package grenade mod was so effective they had to change the rules so that grenade damage couldn't heal. Curiouslyn they buffed the rest of Maya's skill tree to add balance.
Say classes that depend on a healer being active behind them ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
DPS when they don't have a healer stuffed firmly up their ass:
runs straight at enemies and dies within half a second
Right in the cuddles of death.
Eh, only works for specific games. Medics and healers are purposely badass in a bunch of games specifically because of this attitude and the need to make sure people play the class.
Healing in FFXIV is the most fun I had in MMO, having to do mechanics, dps and keeping grp alive
I think the reason FFXIV is enjoyable is more-so that if you act like a toxic dickwad, you'll be yeeted out of the community at record pace by Square Enix, because unlike Blizzard, they actually enforce their game rules.
Healing is fun when the community is supportive and not when people are blowing a gasket over imperfect play.
I agree but it has nothing to do with just healing but everything else included.
Pfft, try Tanking.
DPS: how DARE YOU fail to prevent me from drawing aggro and killing myself!
Also DPS: y u no parse good?
I tried returning to WoW (Classic) after a 10 year absence, thought I'd try tanking for a change instead of healing. Deadmines, what could go wrong?
Well, one mage managed to not only constantly draw agro from me, he also bumbled into the next group of mobs while the rest was still regaining mana again and again. Looted the box that starts that boss fight with a Tauren while the rest was not ready and wiping the party as a result. After that we all concluded that pressing on wasn't going to work. Fucking hell, never gotten such a toxic shit load of crap in my chat ever before, he sent me a book's worth of profanities all because "I sucked at tanking" according to him. Decided then and there that this was not the way how I wanted to spend my free time. When I quit WoW I already noticed that the social aspect was going down the drain, apparently it hasn't gotten any better during my absence.
I've never even played WoW, it's just a universal experience in Tanking. PUGs, raiding, doesn't matter. Everyone shits on the tank and healer.
DPS: Imma wipe the party by drawing aggro during a scripted positional AoE that the tank carefully aimed away from everyone!
I swear DPS players are just jerks:
Me: Applies continuous healing and damage resistance to DPS
DPS: Walks right through multiple DoT inflicting AOEs and into the middle of a huge group of enemies immediately dying.
DPS: How dare you not keep me alive!
How to not get any healers and reveal yourself as a self-centered ass
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