I may be stupid, but at least I don't have a lot of money
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I have noticed the biggest quality decline in produce. I have had real trouble finding stuff that hasn't already started to rot or be riddled with worms etc. Potatoes seem to be the worst offenders.
Food I cook is starting to taste more and more like my mother's cooking. Moving out of home I always assumed my mums poor cooking was down to technique, boiling the brussel sprouts, steaming the peas until they were grey, water frying everything. As soon as I learned to cook properly it was amazing how much flavour everything had. Letting things brown fully, using oil, not overcooking everything.
But recently, no amount of skill can save the sad veggies sold in store.
It makes the hyperprocessed foods even more appealing when there's nothing you can affordably do to improve the simple produce and staples. When potatos cost the same as Pringle's, calorie for calorie (and they do, 
) it's easy to see why "just eat beans, rice, and in season produce" isn't helpful advice - yes it's frugal, but it's depressing, and not as easy as it used to be. Why waste money on already rotting food that tastes bland when the same money can buy me a more nutrient dense food that lasts longer and tastes better?
I've got a few things growing on the 2m concrete slab my landlord calls a back yard, it helps having home grown spring onion, parsley and pea shoots to dress up a dish.
I'm a terrible gardener, I can't even get mint to take. "grow your own" is thrown around too readily when people complain about produce quality. It's not always an option, there is a physical skill, a cognitive skill, and resource requirements.
The quality has only decreased if you buy the "popular" kinds. Adams peanut butter is legit. Rice is rice. Get bread from a local bakery, eggs from a local farm, sliced meats from a local deli etc. Coke has a zero sugar Vanilla Coke and a zero sugar Sprite, both of which are great.
coke has a zero sugar ...
and yet they're probably charging the same as full sugar, probably while adding sweeteners to the full sugar version?
I hate to break it to you but sweetened drinks aren't much better for you than sugary ones, but are way cheaper to produce, so this is just coke wanting to save money yet again
0 calories and no sugar drinks are way better for you
Water, unsweetened tea, unsweetened coffee, milk and countless other non-sweetened or minimally sweetened drinks are way better for you than any sweetened drink though.
"0 calorie" sweetened drinks are bad for you not because of their content but because eating sweet things increases your appetite as a reaction to sweet things being comparatively rare in nature, even if it's not sugar, so it's been proven that you're more likely to overeat and snack between meals (where the snacks are often also unhealthy) following consuming sweet drinks (I can't remember how long the effects stick around for but it's long enough that it'll stretch to your next meal, or make you want a snack before it), regardless of whether that food is sweet or not. Eating more also makes you lethargic so you're less likely to burn the extra calories.
The issue is this can be palmed off by the manufacturer as the fault of the people eating more, when fast food restaurants have anecdotally known this since forever and so include a sweet drink in their meal so that you want a bigger meal that you'll pay more for.
Even if you actively ensure that you're not letting it affect your appetite, for the majority of the general population that is not the case, so in practice they're close enough to being just as bad that it doesn't matter which you have
I still think it's way better than sweetened drinks, since it has the same downsides but obviously without the sugar content and calories.
But yeah I never thought about it increasing hunger, which indeed is bad. I personally don't drink soda, but for those who do it's an important thing to consider
I hate to say it, but Walmart's store brand stuff is still reasonably priced. It's not uncommon for it be half the price of the big name brands.
stares angrily in fresh produce
You do realize not everyone lives near local farms or has time in their day to go to them, right? You do realize fruits and veggies aren't only healthy, but delicious? You do realize that poorer people don't have much choice thanks to food deserts?
Capitalism destroys choices for the vast majority of people at its current stage. The free market destroys competition, the best thing capitalism supposedly had going for it. This destruction is by design. Monopoly was always the end game.
Exactly this. I luckily live in California, where much of the produce is locally grown and easily accessible even in many rural places. When I've traveled to other states, it's hit or miss on whether you can find fresh produce that isn't fucked up in some way if any at all. Some places might not have anything but a Dollar Tree or similar within a 50+ mile radius.
This presumes one has these options available. Yeah, there are local delis in the neighborhood, but they're slicing Boarshead, not their own cured meats. A bakery that actually bakes their own bread is a 90 minute round trip, while the local farmer's market is over an hour each way, one day a week to get eggs if you happen to be off that day. Also, closing that list out with Coke? I remember when I worked at a grocery store in high school, a 2L bottle was routinely on sale for less than a dollar. The same bottle is over $3 now.
Almost like the system is compensating for more than just a “minor hiccup” caused by the pandemic, almost like that’s a convenient excuse to cover up a decade of mismanagement of investment.
This, but also it's almost like the market isn't a perfectly efficient rational machine. It's like these companies are using "inflation" as an excuse to increases prices and decrease costs without a need. If they're making record profits while increasing prices, the prices weren't caused by inflation, rather they're the cause of it.
I remember back to my econ class where most models were predicated by, "assuming rational actors.." and think then that most people are irrational and impulsive. And to think that much of the financial world is based on those models, it really sums up why no one has a clue why everything is so fuckey.
Yeah, capitalism would be a great system if the foundation, which is rational actors with perfect information, weren't so wrong. Once you realize that that is totally wrong, you really notice all the flaws in the system.
Inherently it's still not a great system
And transportation. And repairs of anything. And property taxes. And insurance. And...
Looks like peoples expectations are right where I need them to start dating again.
Quality and quantity. That box of cereal suddenly costs 0.50 cents more and has 4 ounces less of product. I hate this place sometimes
i have a playlist for that
Start a garden. In pots if you have to
Old trash cans and even sturdy bags work for potatoes if you can't find big pots. Clean pallet wood that has only heat treatment can also be used to make planters that last a few years.
Instructions unclear; started a pot garden and barter buds for food.
You'd be better off growing food. Pot is not an easy plant to grow.
Someone grew it in a ditch by my house once. Seemed to be thriving out there.
They were just that good at growing it. Hell, the ditch was probably chosen because it had the best conditions. It might have had the right moisture, soil, airflow, and sunlight for it. There's a reason why it's often grown indoors or in controlled environments, even when it's perfectly legal.
Make hash coins to barter in the trailer park like Ricky
Exactly. It’s not rocket appliances
Gotta get two birds stoned at once
Just water under the fridge.
You handle the toilet paper wrong and it will look like a ghost kissed your shirt.
Say what
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Thank you
They compensated by adding more plastic though.
And sawdust
No no no, that's "cellulose", it's fine, nothing to see here.
That’s “sell you less.”