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I’ll probably bin it. Every playlist goes into the same few songs recently.
Hmm, I use Spotify to stream a wake up mix (approved by my SO,) to an Amazon Echo via Home Assistant. Currently, I know of no way to stream arbitrary music files to an Echo. And I know of no consumer grade device that can accept the command to "Shut your cake hole" when we're tired of listening to stuff while being compatible with HA. This is ... inconvenient.
Cool, I already use AntennaPod and it's great!
Just a heads up to everyone, quitting Spotify and buying / "procuring" your own music and playing it via a music player makes reading this quite cathartic. Do it for the moral superiority and self esteem boost for no effort you come to the internet for anyways.
How do you even buy music anymore?
There's quite a few ways actually:
If none of the above has worked, this is no longer an issue about whether you want to pay for the product or not, it's a supplier problem.
Also, when it comes to specific platforms, Apple Music is quite good, though they make it rather painful to buy music if you use Linux
I've never seen an artist on Bandcamp that I actually recognize.
Telling anyone to "just Google it" is proof that you have no interest in a good faith discussion.
Bandcamp is good for indie artists and if you want to discover new artists. I've found quite a few diamonds in the rough on there. A surprising amount of metal / punk artists sell via Bandcamp if you're into that.
How is 'just Google it" not a valid option? This is literally how you can find 99% of all problems about the internet especially for finding where to legally buy digital products within the first few websites. You know what is good for business when you're trying to sell a product? Making sure its one of the first few, if not the first choice the customer gets when looking at the default search engine.
Moving on from that I'm guessing getting in contact with the artist is not an option? Y'know the other 2 points?
Are you sure you responded to the correct comment? 🤔
I feel like piracy and moral superiority don't really belong together
Yeah the moral thing to do is pay a third party company $130 per year who then pays an artist $0.20 per billion streams of their work.
I mean the moral thing is just to not buy the product if you have an issue with it.
I have no problem with piracy, but pretending you're some sort of hero for doing it is ridiculous
How is that the moral avenue? You want these artists to fade into obscurity because nobody can ever hear their music while also not earning any money?
A popular myth, but a myth nonetheless.
I always try to buy my music first, digital only though. I don't have space for CDs or the like. If the option is not available (not common), the tricorn goes on. And normally I would go through any loophole I can find to get it legally. But damn, the Japanese really don't like doing business with foreigners.
But damn, the Japanese really don't like doing business with foreigners.
Truer words have never been spoken
You are clearly not aware of the windfall profits corporations are making, and that they are then passing exactly none of it on to the workers generating that profit
It is a moral imperative to pirate EA, Ubisoft and Nintendo.
Doesn't seem so bad, if you don't want the price hike just change your plan to not include audiobooks. A little scummy that you need to opt out but not the worst.
Y'all keeping paying, they keep raising prices... there is a solution but nobody can figure out what tit is!
You're right - Apple Music is cool
I’ve been quite enjoying AM too
I’ve had an excellent experience with Apple Music as well. Plus, lossless!
I'm all in on Navidrome
Same here! I just started to contribute stuff to MusicBrainz.
We buy a bunch of things on bandcamp friday if the bands are there, otherwise get it through other means (specially if we already have the LP)
Can someone recommend kid/family friendly alternative? Is Tidal easy to use/navigate?
If you're Apple users Music isn't too shabby
Works fine on Android as well (which is weird considering how bad Apple software can be on non-Apple devices). Just need to create an Apple ID and you're set.
Testing out the trial right now and it's pretty great so far.
UI is way better than Spotify as well (IMO), plus lossless for the same price as current Spotify Premium. (And it also has a max cache size limit option, so even playing a shit ton of lossless isn't going to eat up more space than what you select.)
Getting my fucking Spotify library and playlists I've built over the years on here is going to be a long nightmare, though.
https://www.tunemymusic.com is a great service for migrating libraries.
Nice, that looks incredibly helpful. Thanks for the rec!
If the raise prices too much I'm going to finalise my plan to move to YouTube Music family plan. Additional bonus will be no more adds on YouTube.
Don't fall for this self hosting stuff. It's well meant and great for single tech enthusiasts, but with family, you won't have enough time to do the required upkeep and the whinning you will here from dependents when stuff goes wrong isn't worth it.
You can try NewPipe, which is free. IIRC I downloaded it from F-Droid. Maybe someone else can reply and confirm that's the best place to get it.
You can also get the APK from their GH. Great app, doesn't solve the family support problem though, and I'm not sure that it works on Apple devices.
They're all pretty straight forward and Tidal has a better record of crediting and paying artists than Spotify. But ultimately, I would suggest self hosting.
How is self hosting better than paying artists?
I often buy albums on Bandcamp and supposedly artists get a good cut of that. They have an app too, so you can stream content from there (or self host the files you get when you buy)
The revenue from streaming services always pales in comparison to buying the music directly from an artist. The streaming model has been hijacked by record labels who take the majority share, such are the deals they force artists to sign.
A decent number of artists offer digital downloads of their music directly either for a flat fee or in a pay what you wish system.
It is nowhere near as convenient unfortunately. Benn Jordan mentions some options in several of their videos about their experience with Spotify, but i’m admittedly not certain I just linked the right one.
I'd take a lower-priced plan with limited listening time. They're getting too expensive for the few hours a month I use it. If they bump it up more I will quit for sure.
The only reason I still use them is the qt-spotify third party client. None of the other services work on my OS (they all need DRM on the browser or other nastiness I don't have).