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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The way in which most polls are conducted is often biased towards older voters as they’re often phone calls.

People that follow this have discussed this at length. There are a number of polls that are done on-line (YouGov being one of the ones I know of off the top of my head), and those tend to be biased as well. The people conducting the polls understand the biases inherent in their polling, and reputable polling companies will do their best to correct for biases. Metapolling will aggregate and weight polls so that they can get a better understanding of how people both feel, and how they're likely to act.

Again: this isn't a "rigged" system. "Rigging" a system would be setting it up intentionally to function--or fail--in a specific way. Inherent biases that you're trying to remove to the best of your ability isn't "rigging" a poll.

And here’s a report from journalists that doesn’t profit from polling

Nate Cohn was, I believe, a pollster before he became a journalist. He's a frequent contributor to fivethirtyeight (I think I was listening to him just a few minutes ago talking about Trump's speech at the RNC). Him saying that they don't know how issues polling connects to actual behavior--versus ""horse race" polling"--doesn't say that the polls themselves are the problem. Rather, the problem is connecting those polls on issues with how people will actually vote. (I'll have to find the rest of that newsletter, since it cuts off just as he's getting really interesting.)

Fundamentally, you're asking about issues polling, rather than which candidate a given person is likely

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I said nothing about a rigged system. Just that polls have an inherent bias.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My apologies, I wasn't paying attention to user names, and I assumed you were the person that made the top level comment about polls being rigged. That's entirely my fault.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It's a contentious topic, I understand.