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Following his trial for defamation of the families of the children and school staff killed in the Sandy Hook massacre, conspiracy theorist Alex Jones is using Valve Corp.’s Steam, the world’s largest digital distribution platform for PC games, to sell an Infowars-themed video game. Jones claims to have earned hundreds of thousands in revenue from the video game, yet he has refused to pay the Sandy Hook families. Alex Jones: NWO Wars also mirrors and cartoonishly repackages the conspiracy theorist’s regularly violent, hateful rhetoric despite the platform’s policies against hate speech.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Anyone know if it would it be worth reporting this as Defamatory on Steam? There are options for Legal Violation, Harmful, Fraud, Defamatory...without having played it it's hard to throw it in any of those specific categories, because they mostly have to do with the software itself, though Defamation might work since I'd be surprised if the content doesn't contain defamatory statements (even if they're wrapped in attempted irony for legal wiggle room).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I flagged it as harmful because it isn't directly related to the defamation case. But I'm sure either gets your point across, and if Valve gets enough complaints maybe they'll actually realize they don't need a man criminally liable for misusing media, to benefit spreading media on their platform.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I flagged it as Child Exploitation for the simple fact one of the screenshots says Epstein Island...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dont forget to report Google too they have the gall to host this on their servers!1!1 man I bet if any realtor tries to list it for sale we can get them too!! We should never see anything about it existing ever again so people forget about it! /S if it isnt painfully obvious.

https://www.google.com/search?q=epstein+island&sca_esv=f9536568f210c1d3&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACQVn0-aA8RhIzXcA050geQDDBsEsCV0CQ:1705935097775&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjk3Yy8n_GDAxXYmbAFHVn4C74Q_AUIBigB&biw=226&bih=489#imgrc=AiYobCbnzJPBPM

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Shit, better report me too! I shared a picture of Epstein Island from google search!!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

I'd report you just for not removing everything after the ? in your dumb link

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Please do explain how showing a picture of Epstein Island is child exploitation. I would love to have that make sense. If there was a daycare that hurt children and I had a picture of the outside of the daycare how in the fuck is that Child exploitation? Its a game about conspiracy theories and political events. That dude who ran that island mysteriously died with no cameras on him and some new guards that were asleep. A lot of people know he did not kill himself so that being unprovable makes it a conspiracy theory which is no surprise it would make it to a game about conspiracy theories. Fuck Alex Jones but also fuck a bunch of dumbasses wasting Valves time and reasources reporting shit that isnt happening. God you people are STUPID I dont understand how people can be so out of touch with the reality around them. Also harmful reportings? Go take a look at the top games on steam especially the Hentai ones where the thousand year old characters look like children THATS child exploitation but showing a picture of espstein island is not child exploitation. You can google pictures of Epstein Island right now, pages upon pages should I report Google for child exploitation? Common sense is dead

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

M O N E T I Z A T I O N

(And yes Japanese anime pedo culture is gross too but that's just a red herring regarding this)

Also, "wasting valves time" gtfo... They made a billion dollars off skins in loot crates, they have plenty of fucking "time."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I do find it weird that Steam actually had this as a game pushed to me. Not sure if that was targeted due to other game choices I've made, but I saw the ad and laughed and shook my head.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Alex Jones got to his position by gaming the advertisement system for self-promotion. I can't say I'm shocked to see his video game once again exploiting the Steam store's algorithm, just like he'd gamed the YouTube and Twitter algorithms before.

You'll see Ann Coulter do the same thing with book sales. Have someone straw-purchase 10,000 copies of "Smelly: The Liberal Campaign To Fart A Lot And How It Is Destroying America", and rocket to the top of the Best Seller Lists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think Regnery Press does that last bit all the time...I don't know if people that maintain such lists take that kind of thing into account or not. And yeah, I have no trouble believing that Lil Alex found some demon willing to help him game the Steam system.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

I don’t know if people that maintain such lists take that kind of thing into account or not

It takes more work to find out who is purchasing the books, particularly if the publisher includes straw-purchases as part of its marketing strategy and therefore has an incentive to report their number inaccurately.

I have no trouble believing that Lil Alex found some demon willing to help him game the Steam system.

He's got enough money to simply do it himself (or outsource the process to professionals). Sort of a priming-the-pump method to marketing. Its very possible that the vig Steam gets from your straw purchases is less than the cost of paying them upfront to advertise your game. Also possible he's doing both, in which case Steam has a strong economic incentive not to discourage this behavior.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This article invests a lot of effort trying to make it look like it's all Steam's responsibility.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

It IS their store.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Lock him up (for life, 0 chance of getting out), Access his bank accounts, pay out the damn families already, forget about him and let him rot in there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lock him up (for life, 0 chance of getting out)

Defamation is a civil matter, so there's no chance of this. There's really only one case in the US where someone can be locked up for failing to pay what they owe from a civil court decision, and that's child support.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ooooo TALKING = LIFE SENTENCE . Maybe you should talk a therapist and let the anger out peacefully. Don't involve your emotions. Surely a rational person cannot think that is a reasonable punishment.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

(Most sane supporter of him)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you think he did the shooting himself?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact the game can be beaten in 45 minutes and steam refund policy allows returns on games played 2 hours or less

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That is a fun fact. Here's an ever funner fact: Don't give your money to assholes and then take it back. Just like, don't give it to them in the first place.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

Doesn't make sense. You give them money. Enjoy (only some do enjoy) the game. Get money back. Net sum is positive if the game was fun for you.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

True... But if you buy and return it you can give it a negative review?

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