Rest of the show: https://youtu.be/wznD7uCEcLk
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I'm kind of scared to watch this. I like Jon Stewart and don't want to have my image of fun ruined by possible bad takes lol. Anyone knows how he does during this segment?
But if you know Jon Stewart, he doesn't really have bad. Takes on just about anything
Except Chicago-style pizza.
Lol you really started something
I take pizza very seriously
And Chicago makes seriously good pizza
It's just tomato sauce casserole
He's dead right about that
Where's the cheese
The pizza
It’s a pie
I respectfully disagree, it has no lid.
Yes, because it's pizza
It's a relatively nuanced take, even if I don't agree with everything he says.
Of course, if you've become radicalised, you might think he's a Zionist shill or making excuses for Hamas.
There was a disclaimer at the start of the show that covered that bit. I thought it was clever
It's not a revolutionary take. It's "easy" to make fun of extremist right-wingers in Israel, Hamas as an extremist group and the do-nothing West just watching on. If you know Stewart's opinion on the conflict, then this segment isn't a surprise either.
I think he did a pretty good job of walking the tightrope between levity/seriousness about Gaza for what is after all a light current affairs show.
I actually think the follow up discussion with an American journalist representing each faction was more impressive, and contained a decent amount of nuance regarding the practicalities of how the region might find its way out of this mess.
like Jon Stewart and don’t want to have my image of fun ruined by possible bad takes lol.
Yeah, always be careful to not accidentally expose yourself to critical thinking.
Not sure your concerns. I think its a great take on the situation. If anyone is offended by it then they hold strong beliefs and a weak/ inflexible mindset
The concerns are likely just the observed disconnect between their perception of reality and that of others (though more precisely their perception of others' perception). It can be a rough realization, and given that this disconnect is pervasive in the US regarding Israel/Palestine, it stand to reason to be a little bit concerned of how, even Jon Stewart, might seem to perceive that reality.
I'm also only writing this in an attempt at clarifying what the underlying concern might be. With good intentions. I have not seen the clip, so it's not related to anything specific there. Also, I hope it explains why this doesn't have anything to do with being offended or having an inflexible mindset.
Some minds are simply critical of everything. Even their own thought processes, and impose the same requirements as they would on others. This leads to a much higher certainty in that they perceive correctly. If it wasn't, challenging it would be welcomed. Views tend to be highly correlated with the views of others who are similarly critical. It might look like a bubble reaffirming each other's ignorance, because those very much exist. This mindset is antithetical to that. There is no desire to reaffirm anything, only present arguments to re-evaluate. Yet, it often happens that someone you thought had the same critical mindset, reveal small, but exceedingly deep, holes in that understanding. It comes of as hypocritical to that mentality. This is the rough realization I'm referring to. It doesn't offend. It isn't because of a inflexible mindset. It simply disappoints.
Hope that helps. Hope it doesn't offend ;)
Comprehensive answer and well explained. You have thought about this at a deeper level and appreciate your viewpoint
Perfectly explained =)
I'd say it's perfectly watchable and low in the bad takes department, at the result of kind of just stating the obvious (ceasefire now). A couple of things my leftist heart disagreed with, but generally in the "which solution is actually the most viable" sense and not the "we disagree about if 30,000+ people deserve to live" sense.
Glad to hear it! So kind of similar to Jon Oliver's segment on the topic, which I thought was pretty good?
I didn't get a chance to watch Jon Oliver's but I would assume so! I wouldn't be afraid to watch this one at least, nothing really surprising in it.