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"We'd love to not pay you for labor!!!"

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This is an awful and scummy move, in exchange for marketing their product they give out stickers? They aren't giving out Framework laptops and if setting up a framework station at a convention costs money you're supposed to pay for it yourself? If I ever want to upgrade to a modern laptop I think I'll choose System76.

I have a Framework 13" DIY running Linux. It is functional. I am reasonably confident I will be able to buy replacements for anything that breaks which is important to me. It is well designed for repair and upgrade but other devices offer better price/performance/features. If you are on a tight budget and care about the environment buy used.

Hm. I don't have anything against volunteer roles (there's a difference between volunteer roles and "unpaid work", "unpaid work" implies a form of coercion—if it's a volunteer role you can say no with no punishment or consequence), but the way it's described, e.g. the implied expectation of conducting yourself professionally at Linux conferences, makes it sound like it will have quite a bit more responsibility than most volunteer roles in the Linux community. And Framework isn't a nonprofit; they produce and sell commodities, so they should be able to pay their own workers.

I'm not rioting over it, I don't ultimately care too much and if people want to volunteer for this role that's their choice. I think I'd prefer they paid these ambassadors but ultimately if you don't want to do this for free there's not really anything coercing you into doing it, so.

I can understand why this may be a issue to some people. I think if they asked Windows users this, there wouldn't be as much of a strong reaction to this. Maybe it comes off as exploiting the good will of the Linux community, but I can't read minds.

I'm personally ok with this. If someone willingly volunteers and enjoys doing this, then what's the problem? But again, I'm not sure if that's the core issue at hand here.

This involves travel. I don't know of anyone who is willing to leave their day job and just travel out of pocket without any compensation. I like the company, but this is doable if you're a YouTuber maybe? I don't see anyone doing it, honestly.

I'll do it for a free laptpp

Linux means free (cost) labor and software right?

Anyway this program is probably going to flop as you will get the bottom of the barrel.

I don’t have a Framework Laptop, can I still apply?

Our ambassadors need to be active users and owners of Framework Laptop(s)

That's pathetic. In place of financial compensation, the least they could do is to give Framework notebooks away. Doesn't even have to be a gift right away. There could be strings attached. "On loan first but you can keep it after X amount of time."

Send me a laptop and I’ll spend a few hours a week helping on your forums or even tickets. But no one should work for free

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People who feel they need to have their travel, hotel, event fees, etc. compensated are not a good fit for this program.

So "NO POOR PEOPLE."

I disliked Framework ever since their "fans" (paid trolls) started bombarding every Thinkpad post on reddit with "frAmEwoRk iS tHe neW tHinKpaD" replies. Normally I support the little guy, but I really hope Lenovo creates their own modular laptop so I can buy one of them instead.

What I feel would be acceptable:

If you're proud of your Framework laptop and want to brag about it, we'll give you some swag for free that you can show off with when you're out and about!

What this looked like to me:

If you're attending a conference we'd be paid to attend, but can't go to, will you show off your Framework laptop to attendees in an effort to convince them to buy one from us too, and we'll send you some stickers?

The issue isn't even what they're asking for, but how their asking it.