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good idea/bad idea, necessary democratic reform or authoritarian imposition? are there better or worse ways to do it?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There are less coercive ways to remove barriers to voting. Some US states send everyone ballots in the mail and you have a long time to fill them out, which removes the need to go to a specific place on a specific day; all you have to do is fill it out and put it back in the mailbox. I think that kind of thing is a better option. There are situations where there are strong reasons civic participation has to be mandatory, like jury duty, but if the only real problem mandatory voting is meant to solve is life circumstances leading people to not bother voting, there are a lot of other plausibly effective steps that can be taken instead and it isn't clearly necessary to do something that invasive.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

australia has compulsory voting and id say that most people here would not describe it as “invasive” - it is, in fact, a source of national pride

we have early voting, mail in ballots, etc too so people are enabled to vote however is easiest and you can not vote, but you have to submit a vote

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are also countries with mandatory military service for all citizens where people there have a positive impression of the program and feel national pride about it, but I don't think that necessarily means it is a good practice. I think anything the government is forcing people to do should meet a high bar of not being able to accomplish the same thing any other way, because freedom is important, whether or not people know to value it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

why do you think mandatory military service isn’t a good idea?

why are you judging peoples countries based on your view that governments shouldn’t force people to do things?

in fact you’re judging peoples’ lived experience and opinions based entirely on your own narrow views of government

mandatory military service might mean fewer wars if people understood better what that meant

my government (australia) is, all in all, a good thing - them telling people in this country to do things is, again all in all, a good thing. we live in a society, and the world has different people with different opinions and different ways of viewing the world and doing things

am i privileged to have a government that i can trust? sure! no denying that… but mistrust of the government is not a reason to write off the entire concept of societal mandates

yknow what else is good? taxes, fire services, disaster response, and dare i say - public healthcare and ambulances… all things im mandated to pay for along with everyone around me in case we ever need them

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