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Trump used the stage to deliver a profanity-filled version of his usual rally speech that again painted an apocalyptic picture of the country if Biden wins a second term.

"If I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that's going to be the least of it. It's going to be a bloodbath for the country..

Biden campaign spokesperson James Singer accused Trump of doubling "down on his threats of political violence."

"He wants another January 6, but the American people are going to give him another electoral defeat this November because they continue to reject his extremism, his affection for violence, and his thirst for revenge," Singer charged in a statement.

A one-time Trump critic, Moreno, a wealthy Cleveland businessman, supported Marco Rubio for president in the 2016 Republican primary, and once tweeted that listening to Trump was "like watching a car accident that makes you sick, but you can stop looking." In 2021, NBC News reported on an email exchange around the time of Trump's first presidential run in which Moreno referred to Trump as a "lunatic" and a "maniac."

On Saturday, however, Moreno praised Trump as a "great American" and railed against those in his party who have been critical of the former president, who this week became his party's presumptive nominee for a third straight election.

"I am so sick and tired of Republicans that say, 'I support President Trump's policies but I don't like the man,'" he said as he joined Trump on stage.

Trump also continued to criticize Biden over his handling of the border as he cast migrants as less than human. "In some cases, they're not people, in my opinion," he said. ... He also criticized the Dolan family, which owns Cleveland's baseball team, for changing its name from the Cleveland Indians to the Cleveland Guardians.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Do you guys do this on purpose or do you really not understand? What he seems to be saying is that if he is not elected there will be a bloodbath, not of his own creation but that will happen as a result of criminal illegal immigrants committing violent crimes, and those people are not people. I am not saying he is right, but this has to be intentionally being misunderstood for stupid political rhetoric.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (7 children)

So, who are "you guys", in this scenario? Lemmings?

Because the title of the post is VERBATIM the title of the linked article.

...Did you read the article, the article that you're suggesting people are intentionally misunderstanding his rhetoric on?

No. You didn't either. I know you didn't either, because it explicitly puts it into context:

"If I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that's going to be the least of it. It's going to be a bloodbath for the country," he warned, while talking about the impact of offshoring on the country's auto industry and his plans to increase tariffs on foreign-made cars.

So, you're right, kind of. You're the worst kid of right. "Accidentally not quite wrong".

Like, fist of all: Fuck NPR for his headline. Clearly intentionally misleading.

Second of all: Fuck everyone commenting about how "it tracks", without ever even fucking reading the article.

And third of all: Fuck you for going off on people for chastising people while you yourself didn't even read the article.

If you are included in any of my fuck yous: I mean it. you are literally actively involved in the dismantling of Western Democracy so seriously fuck you.

If you weren't included, but are offended by my fuck yous, actually fuck you too for enabling it.

If you actually read the article before opening your mouth, no matter your position: you're cool.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The thing to note here is that terminology like this isn't intended to actually communicate something about the topic at hand. It really doesn't matter if Trump was talking about immigration, the auto industry, or economics, the point is that his base wants to hear an aggressive tone, and violent rhetoric sells that.

So the takeaway here is that Trump is riling up his base, and that he chooses to use violent language to do so is concerning. He's juxtaposing violent, aggressive speech and election outcomes, and that's not a good look for someone who is accused of aiding and abetting an insurrection intended to keep him in power.

At least that's my takeaway, reading a bit between the lines.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Trump's all about using strong emotional language without actually saying anything. Using vague language so that you can interpret it however you want is kind of his trademark.

Rush Limbaugh was also a master of it, and conservatives have convinced themselves he was a great man too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Yeah, it doesn't work on me, but apparently it's pretty effective.

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